I've been out of touch for a while. Can you help?

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by worthydog, Nov 27, 2017.

  1. worthydog

    worthydog Shosholoza

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    I just sold my bike with the Zumo 500 that I enjoyed for 10 years. Now I need a new GPS for the new bike. The old one worked great but didn't do much off road. Since I keep them forever, I don't consider price a factor. I dont use other software because I am a tech dunce. Garmin always worked for me in the past. Is there another I should look at? I want a dedicated GPS mounted on the bike. What should I look at? What would you like to receive as a gift?
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  2. HarveyM

    HarveyM Been here awhile

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  3. wbbnm

    wbbnm Long timer

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    I have been using a Garmin Montana for several years for mostly off-road riding including several long (~2k mi) trips. I guess there are a few glitches here and there, but overall I am happy with it.

    I don't know anything about the other models in your list.
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  4. worthydog

    worthydog Shosholoza

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    I'm probably an 80-20% rider so performance on pavement is primary concern
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  5. rider911

    rider911 Shortcut Navigator

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    The Zumo 595 is what you need
    It does what you want very well
    You can add tyre pressure monitors to display on the screen
    And has lifetime map updates
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  6. worthydog

    worthydog Shosholoza

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    why Zumo 595 over the montana?
    I also need something that works anywhere in the world. Do they both carry maps for everywhere?
    as to TPM, my bike already has that.
    sorry with the "short bus" questions. This stuff is like learning how a toaster works. I just want toast.
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  7. Lopburi

    Lopburi Lost in paradise

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    My experience with the garmin TPM is that they are unreliable and break easy. Didn't even get 6 months out of mine. Not worth the price.

    I bought a garmin 590 when my 550 failed after many years of use. The screen brightness on the 590 is poor and the new map software is slow to update as your moving. Not very happy with it but it's what I have until it breaks.
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  8. unswitched

    unswitched loose nut on my handlebars

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  9. Dorito

    Dorito Dreamer and Doer

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    As mentioned in post #7, some GPSs are still slow to redraw. The Montana shines here, but also has the largest learning curve to operate it. It is incredibly user configurable, but almost to it's own detriment. Very nice unit once you get over that hurdle.

    I have two Zumo 660s, and although I have been very happy for them, I had to delete a bunch of useless Garmin pre-load files to get the entire US map to load this last update. It is woefully out of memory. For this reason, I would not recommend it any longer unless price was an independent variable and you budget was very small.

    The BMW Navigator V (and most likely VI) have some interesting fee-for-service options such as weather and traffic if that interests you. Since the Nav VI launched, you can pick up a Nav V used reasonably. Since you are road biased, these are my recommendations. The Nav V is very good at tracks also (and presumably they carried this over to Nav VI).
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  10. rider911

    rider911 Shortcut Navigator

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    Lucky for me this has not been my experience at all.
    The TPM works fantastically well although the visual alert banner could be way better but you are audibly alerted first anyway.
    The screen brightness is something Im surprised that anyone would complain about, in direct sunlight its absolutely awesome. It does attract significant dust but probably not the OP's issue.
    I have seen people complain about the redraw speed on the new Garmin 276 but I have never heard anybody complain about it on the 59* and it certainly has not been my experience using City Nav. and topo maps.

    I have had many software issues but they are things that will probably not concern worthydog.

    The 595 comes with lifetime map updates for City Nav NA or what ever region it is purchased from, AFAIK the Montana needs CNNA to be purchased separately and Lifetime updates are not available.
    The 595 has a bigger screen than the Montana.
    I thought lots of people complain about the routing capabilities of the Montana but I've never owned one.

    I thought the 590 is basically the same as the Nav V and the 595 is the same as the Nav VI, I stand corrected if this is not true.
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  11. worthydog

    worthydog Shosholoza

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    Is there any reason to buy the BMW Nav machines over the Garmin branded? same/same?
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  12. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    if you don't mind spending a ton, any of the new Garmin/TomTom units will give you a boxed mount to slap on the bike while relieving you of the cash.

    if I was going to ask for a gift it would be the galaxy s5 active or neo. they're so much more powerful than stand alones, and have replaceable batteries. or maybe a Duraforce xd. the standalone units can't do enough to keep me happy.
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  13. JR356

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    There is not a Garmin equivalent to the Nav v and VI.
    Closest you can get is a Zumo 660/665,but those are closer to the NavIV.
    All will fit in the BMW LC GPS prep mount and power up,but only the Nav V and VI will get full wonder wheel control on the LC bikes.

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  14. worthydog

    worthydog Shosholoza

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    I’ve got an F700 gs. No wheel. So which one?
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  15. dnrobertson

    dnrobertson Big Bike, Slow Rider

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    I used a 550 for several years before upgrading (3 years ago) to the Zumo 590 (now the 595).

    I have had no problems with screen update speed while riding.

    I have had problems sometimes reading the screen, but there are different themes available (you'll have to learn about those coming from the 550) to make the screen more readable, but none solve the problem completely.

    The Zumo has a bigger screen than the Montana (if that's important to you) and comes with car and bike mounts.

    The 590/595 have better off road capabilities (e.g. follow pre-planned tracks) than the 550.

    The 590/595 have bluetooth capabilities, the Montana doesn't.
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