Jeep Patriot or Compass - how are these things?

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  1. jackd

    jackd Long timer

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    I'm looking at buying either a new Jeep Patriot or Compass for my wife. It would be a base vehicle with CVT and Airconditioning, and little else. These things are dirt cheap and if she killed it, I wouldn't care. I'm just curious about how these 2.4 litre world engines and CVT transmissions hold up. I'm not interrested in other brands - she seems to have her heart set on one of these and probably the Patriot. I don't like the Caliber - it looks like a Cockroach. Give me your thoughts.
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  2. Grainbelt

    Grainbelt marginal adventurer Super Moderator

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    buddy has a fairly well optioned Caliber, so far, no issues, even after a few Saskatchewan winters.

    I don't know anyone with a lot of miles on either model though, so longevity will likely be, well, Chrysler-ish. :dunno
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    my brother works at the plant where the compass is made and he bought one, for what a huge discount is worth.

    it's not a bad little car. awd, cvt, decent mileage.

    not my first choice, but a japanese cvt should be ok.

    fit and finish has improved quite a bit since launch.
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  5. jackd

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    I was reading that the CVT is made by Jatco - which is a part of Nissan - and they are actually supplying many auto makers all around the world. They manufacture these units for Chrysler in Mexico. I've got a feeling as Manufacturer's start trying to improve the mileage out of these cars equipped with automatic transmissions, that quite soon you won't be able to buy anything but a CVT. Some of the new 6 speeds sound like horribly complicated designs.
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    cvt is currently limited in it's application, but will definitely start increasing.

    at the same time manufacturers are working on 7 and 8 speed automatic transmissions as well.

    personally, i think a lot of these 6 speeds are poorly calibrated and tend to intrude a bit too much.
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    I haven't done enough research other than renting and witnessing these on the road but what is the difference between a patriot, compass, liberty or cherokee? They are all the same size vehicle (within ten percent or so) and every one I've driven felt identical.

    I must be missing something but it seems an obvious case of selling a number of suvs that cannibalize each others sales?
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  9. jackd

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    I'm looking at the Patriot or Compass from the perspective of merely a fwd vehicle - not wanting the 4wd. Nice square corners to show you where the vehicle ends, good on gas, good safety rating and cheap as hell. The young son will also be cutting his teeth on this thing for his first few driving years - the 4 banger will keep his driving under the speed limit. I suspect the the Liberty or other larger Jeep vehicles come with the bigger engines and options that I don't need.
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  10. Deans BMW

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    We replaced a Jeep Cherokee with the Patriot in 4WD, have had it over a year, great car and great milege, very happy with it.
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  11. jackd

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    Gosh, anyone got anything bad to say about these things - (except that the Compass has "girly" styling) - anyone even had leaks in the roof? I've been on Jeep forums and saw the usual cheer leading crowd - I was thinking that I would be getting the more realistic slant on things by asking you guys. You usually go for the dark underbelly on most North American made vehicles.
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  12. Commuter Boy

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    I can say that the Dodge implementation of the Renault/Nissan CVT in the Caliber sucks big fat donkey balls. SWMBO and I rented one and took it on a loop down to Vegas through Death Valley two years ago.

    It had crappy mileage, the RPMs changing up and down zipping around were disconcerting and she managed to cause it to make some metallic screeching noises beating on it going up some mountain passes. Add in all the hard plastic in the cockpit and the poor build quality and it wasn't a desirable auto at all.
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  13. UnderNewOwnership

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    I read a rumour that some genius at Chrysler had the idea of putting fake shift points in Automatic Mode, so it wouldn't feel as 'CVT-y' (it would behave a little more like a regular auto).

    Oh, and btw Mercedes is developing a 9-speed auto.
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  14. Jonnylotto

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    Cherokee is a true SUV with good off road capability. Liberty is less so, more of a semi-tough crossover. Patriot and Compass are both cars with crossover looks that don't belong off the beaten path.
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  15. jeffs900s

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    Not me personally, but a good friend of mine is about to have her second Patriot taken back under the lemon law because they cannot make the sunroof stop leaking (again). No problems other than that AFAIK, but they're basically brand new cars, so I wouldnt expect to much to have happened yet. I definately wouldn't buy one with a sunroof.
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  16. JimVonBaden

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    I've got 26K miles on my 08 Calibur, and it is a fine car. Not one issue, 27mpg on average, and OK power. My ex GF has the Patriot, same drivetrain as the Calibur, and over 30K miles on it with zero issues.

    The CVT is a little odd, but once used to it you find it very easy to drive, and quite accurate in it's gearing. Power is not great, but not bad. It can tow my trailer with a 650 bike on it no problem.

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    For $16K it has been a great car, and I have an unlimited mileage lifetime powertrain warranty on it.

    Jim :brow
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    It's a popular unit for our local Transitos (transit cops). I've been pulled over by one. :lol3


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  18. Grreatdog

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    Yes. The Patriot I rented with the idiotic CVT transmission may be the worst vehicle to drive I have ever experienced. Ever. That includes my 73 Vega. I couldn't even judge how the rest of the vehicle was because the engine/transmission combination was so horrible. My wife flat out refused to drive it.

    In the half hour it took to drive from Jax airport to the beach my wife and I were ready to set fire to the little piece of crap. It was that annoying. Every time you leave from a stop the engine furiously revs out sounding like you have the gas pedal on the mat then the equally noisy transmission goes to work.

    The whole experience was beyond nerve wracking in traffic. But at least it made me appreciate our battered old 97 Cherokee Sport. We flew down to Jax again last month and my wife's only concern was that we not rent another Patriot. The little Ford Fusion we got was like driving a Lexus compared to that Patriot.

    Trail rated? Define trail. :huh
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  19. Gernick

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    My mom has a Patriot. Decent little vehicle. Avoid the sunroof. Drives well. Excellent in the snow and ice. This is the AWD/ 4WD version by the way. Interior was design by an idiot. Tough to get comfortable in it. Hard plastic wherever you want to put your elbow or knee. Over bolstered seats for what the vehicle is. Not a lot of lower back support. If you're broad shouldered you're going to be screaming for relief after an hour. Rear seats are nice and roomy but no thought was put in for where to put your arms.

    Nice vehicle for around town and short trips. Hell on wheels if its going to take more then an hour and a half to get to where you want to go. Not a nice vehicle if you are a large framed person.
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    I have a 2wd 09 Patriot with 12k on it now. So far the only problem we have had is a leaking sunroof, appears to have been corrected but will continue to monitor. We drove both the Patriot and Compass, the compass seemed to have more of a blind spot for the wife she is 4'10".

    THE 2.4 with CVT is not a speed demon and does take some getting used to. It does have more engine breaking than any other automatic I have owned, it starts to noticeable slow as soon as you lift the foot off the accelerator.

    Ken
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