John Lennon's Monkey Bike Anyone?

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  1. MotoGB

    MotoGB Been here awhile

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  2. England-Kev

    England-Kev Long timer

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    "Largely Unrestored and original"

    Apart from the fact that the one John is riding is black and silver, with black tank badges? but there you are, one mans restored is another mans ruined.
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    Only slightly OT but anyway.
    I lived in Merseyside UK during the swinging 60's, and at the end of our street a band called the Undertakers hung out, they used to get around on Honda Monkey Bikes. They used to ride in convoy which was a sight to see.
    My uncle was a motorcycle cop who lived around the corner, his Norton parked in full view, so no monkey business from this mob.
    But I never saw Lennons bike, hijack over carry on.
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  4. nachtflug

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    these things are bringing crazy money now so this one should do 10 - 15 grand easy.
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  5. jeep44

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    I just don't understand the attraction of these bikes, John Lennon aside. A friend picks these up wherever he can, at auctions or wherever, and I'm always surprised at the kind of money even a junker brings.
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    Everybody wants what they either had or longed for as a kid. Now they have money .
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  7. MotoGB

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    In excess of £30k going by a previous bike according to these people:

    http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle...n’s-monkey-bike-expected-fetch-£30000-auction

    A Honda monkey bike used as a runaround by John Lennon on his Surrey estate is expected to fetch more than £30,000 when it goes to auction in March.

    It’s not the first of motorbike fan Lennon’s machines to come up for auction. In 2008, a Honda 160Z monkey bike, which was later owned by Ringo Starr, sold at auction for £30,000, far surpassing its £8,000 estimate
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  8. JCool

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    It's worth as little or as much as some fool is willing to pay for it.
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    jethrocephus Keepin' the party goin' since 1958

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    Back in the days of Motorcycle Shopper magazine, Paul McCartney's Honda SL125 was listed for sale a couple or more times.

    Man, I loved that magazine, added a lot to my Honda Turbo collection back then.
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  10. MotoGB

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    :-)
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  11. JCool

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    Buying John Lennon's used underwear may be more in your price range. :imaposer
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  12. MotoChuck250

    MotoChuck250 Not older than dirt

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    I notice that the listing carefully avoids showing the registration. Don't these plates stay with the vehicle for the life of the vehicle in England? If so, it would be one mark of originality for the bike if the number was the same as the one in the picture? XUC 91H

    Maybe I don't understand British vehicle registration regs.:dunno
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  13. MotoGB

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    You’re right - the registration number should be the same.

    I can’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be, and including it in the photographs would’ve confirmed that, but the auctioneers appear confident of the bike’s authenticity:

    Description:
    – Owned and ridden by John Lennon around his Tittenhurst Park estate

    – Current family ownership since June 1971 (Lennon migrated to New York in August that year)
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  14. MotoChuck250

    MotoChuck250 Not older than dirt

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    Just noticed the serial numbers. Engine: 146584 Frame: 147116 Why wouldn't the frame and engine numbers match I wonder????

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    I also wonder which number traces back to Lennon's ownership. Would not be surprised to find that the engine is the only thing that traces back to Lennon and his family.
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  15. Rob Farmer

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    You'll still look like a nob riding round on it. Why would anybody pay a premium for a John Lennon bike. Its a different colour to the one in the photograph.

    Just checked it on the database and the black one int he photograph is listed as being red now

    • Vehicle make:HONDA CZ 50
    • Date of first registration December 1969
    • Year of manufacture:1969
    • Cylinder capacity (cc):49 cc
    • CO₂Emissions:Not available
    • Fuel type PETROL
    • Export marker:No
    • Vehicle status:SORN in place
    • Vehicle colour:RED
    • Vehicle type approval:Not available
    • Wheelplan:2-WHEEL
    • Revenue weight:Not available
    https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/ViewVehicle
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    If John Lennon bought it new, and owned it for two years, then I would hope his name is on the log book, but I have a bad feeling this is not all it is supposed to be
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    "Current family ownership".....LOL! in all those years, maybe the tank, frame, wheels, engine, and seat have all been changed.........
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  18. jeep44

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    I don't know about these '70s monkey bikes, but the engine and frame numbers for '60s Honda 305s never matched-it was just the way Honda did things back then
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    Yep. It was the first bike that I bought with my own money. And it was a piece of shite then and I'm sure it's a piece of shite now. But my original SL125...she's going to the grave with me:D
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  20. MotoChuck250

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    Thanks for the info. I was wondering if that might be the case.
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