Juggernaut

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by Velocity_Girl, Jul 10, 2011.

  1. Deliverator

    Deliverator not a replicant

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    Hi,

    I'm a complete newbie and never worn the gear. I have been considering it for at least a year. Here are some thoughts I have.

    It seems to me that a simple revision would be to have v-neck collar that follows the dip in the chest plates. It is surprising how little pressure in that area can be bothersome if you are exerting yourself. Also, I read that one of the guys finds his more mature physique to be a problem, this might help with upward pressure from that.

    There is something about the way the chest zipper ends at the right shoulder that has always bothered me. It doesn't seem to finish and lay right in the photo. Maybe a soft, neck-friendly, Velcro tab like on a mummy bag collar closure that would cover the zipper teeth and continue the sort of collar seen on the left side? Would this also afford additional security?

    Keep up your good work and focus on a scientific approach to armor. I really respect what you bring to the table around these issues.
  2. velocitygear

    velocitygear safety =~SPEED

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    Hello and Thank You for the questions.

    I haven't had any specific complaints in regard to the zipper and in my personal experience it's not even a thought. The neck line has been a hit and miss issue due to manufacturing. The "manufacturing" issues are something I'm trying to resolve; I'm working with new entities that have promised satisfaction- really though, they always promise that. Regardless, I'm taking steps to resolve the headache that manufacturing has become.

    The neck line is one of the many...

    For roughly 2 years my business has suffered due to marital issues and finances. Finally, after 15 years of marriage and a brief seperation, it appears we are now "on the same page". That in itself, is a GIGANTIC LEAP forward and will allow me to put more into this evdeavor than ever before. Unfortunately, rebuilding is going to take most of this year. I intend to still come out with our 2013 model but it's more like a 2013.5 version.

    Overall, I have more hope for the coming years than ever before. I don't expect to hit 2013 with the ball rolling, as I have become the stay at home dad while I try to rebuild. My youngest, goes to school full time next year so I expect to have much more time to pursue the goals. This year is going to be slow but sure..

    I've received "flak" for mentioning personal issue with business but it's my reality. This is not a corporation or big business, simply a sole proprietorship with continued goals to provide the product that you'd make for your family and friends, rather than a product made for profits!

    AND THAT is what separates me from the "Industry"!

    As I've always said, if I'm riding motorcycles, I'll also be in the Apparel Industry. Riding motorcycles is my life-long passion, hands down and this little business has saved my a$$ more times than I can count. For me, that in itself makes it ALL worth it!

    Please feel free to ask any questions and Thank You again for taking the time..

    sincerely
    jf
  3. Mr. Canoehead

    Mr. Canoehead Taste Gunnels!

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    I have a Juggernaut and like it but it is a bit cumbersome with a Leatt brace. How about opening up the collar for a Leatt?
  4. Virtualjim

    Virtualjim n00b

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    On the topic of service, I'll give him this...

    Today I asked a simple question about how the Juggernaught fits and if it would work for my specific needs. Within 30 minutes, I had an answer waiting in the inbox and it was honest enough to say that what I need probably wouldn't work for what he has to offer.

    It's one thing when a business takes care of people. It's another thing entirely when they have the guts to say, "we aren't what you need."

    Just offering a my personal perspective.

    Regards,
    Virtualjim
  5. F8 Pilot

    F8 Pilot Bak in the Sadl & Lovinit

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    I have one of your Juggernauts and I recently had a bad get off. Unfortunately I wasn't wearing it but had on a BMW Trailguard jacket with it's full armor.

    Where I landed was on my side and cracked two ribs and severely bruised my kidney. Now the Jugger might have helped a little more but I would like to see more kidney protection not just the belt and side rib protection.
  6. 1Bonehead

    1Bonehead Fearless of Falling

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    I am looking at getting some armor for my son's Dial Sport trip across the USA this summer.

    He likes my Juggernaut unit but I am wondering if the Velorta would be a better option?

    What's the leadtime and cost for 4xl6plate unit? Pm me.
  7. Cjlo

    Cjlo n00b

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    what is the difference between the two?
  8. seabee1

    seabee1 we build, we fight

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    I really like the looks of this product, and am going to buy one. When is the next group buy?!

    And don't let people tell you that your personal life shouldn't cross into your small business. Sometimes they are one and the same!
  9. velocitygear

    velocitygear safety =~SPEED

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    Hello all, it's been a very long year, both professionally (If you can call it that) and personally.

    As some of you may know, I've been doing this for over 10 years with decent results considering the supplier issues that would have driven any sane person onto something else long ago. In addition, personal issues within the past 2 years have been even more trying.

    Ultimately, I persist because riding motorcycles is my passion, it's as important to me as breathing but not quite as systematic. I've ridden maybe 6 times this year and I'm not verry happy about it! I hope to change that for 2014...

    I plan on bringing the 2014 Juggernaut to ADVRider and I'm happy to say that it is going to be the best suit we've built to date. I've spent this entire year searching for a new Manufacturing relationship in Pakistan and our first initial order from them was the best I've seen for a first time effort, in over ten years of doing this.

    So, when it comes about, I'll be posting a link from this thread to the group buy for 2014 Juggernaut. I hope to see you there. ;)

    Also, I intend on having the product "in stock" UNLESS of course theres a group here that wants to stat now! Ultimately, stock orders are taking 8 weeks or less to complete.....

    It's easier to communiate via phone if anyone wants to discuss their Juggernaut or the 2014 model; please feel free

    John Franklin 509-217 7 one one eight
  10. velocitygear

    velocitygear safety =~SPEED

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    I may have a suit available for you, a 2014; it depends on your chest measurement.

    What is your chest measureemnt in inches? and height? Also, what kind of riding do you do?
  11. seabee1

    seabee1 we build, we fight

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    I appreciate the offer, but had another inmate contact me about a never worn unit he was willing to sell me for a considerable discount. Still your product, though!
  12. seabee1

    seabee1 we build, we fight

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    Just received the new (to me) juggernaut, and it seems to be a great piece! I'll be able to put it to use next weekend, and at the howlin at the moon dual sport ride in Prescott!
    Thanks for a great looking product. I hope to not test it's abilities too much!
  13. BajaJay

    BajaJay n00b

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    I'm a novice desert/trail rider 6'2" 225lbs I purchased a xl with 7 plate back.
    1st thing I noticed trying it on was you will need a long sleeve under shirt for sure. 1st ride 60 miles southern Nevada I wore a short sleeve under armor and my arms looked like they went thru a waffle maker and the elbow guards are noticeable. However for the amount of perceived protection you have wearing this it is quite comfortable. I'm not looking forward to my next get off but when it does happen I feel this will help a ton. The customer service I received was great I had a couple of phone conversations with good follow up. I will let you know how my next get off goes, I'm getting pretty good at them.
  14. velocitygear

    velocitygear safety =~SPEED

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    Glad it worked out, now that you own one you'll have the option of getting one at half price in the future... :clap
  15. velocitygear

    velocitygear safety =~SPEED

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    I'm working with a new supplier who frequently uses the mesh you received. I haven't been a huge fan in the past but this providers ability and material quality have improved my opinion of that material. My personal preference though, is still perforated lycra.

    I think we may see lycra for the group buy....

    Anyone have input here. Lycra vs Nylon Mesh??
  16. beechum1

    beechum1 Grimace Soup

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    Lycra if it's the base layer. Any chance for detachable to wash the jacket? My mesh stretched at the shoulders. It's not failed, only a cosmetic issue as far as I'm concerned. It made the Reno rally and Baja rally and all training rides and is still my #1 choice for pro.
  17. murph76

    murph76 Been here awhile

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    awesome....i want a set up
  18. velocitygear

    velocitygear safety =~SPEED

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    I was going to try the mesh for one last order, as it is the more durable material. I suggest wearing an undershirt using either material anyway, so the skin irritation issue isn't going to solely decide this one..

    SO::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::


    ADVRIDER MEMBERS:


    I have 30 suits to be produced of our 2014 Juggernaut featuring:

    ~mesh jacket material
    ~removable sleeves
    ~ and adjustable/removable shoulder guards.
    ~3 piece articulating shoulder and elbow guards
    ~solid 1 piece chest protection

    The sleeves and shoulder guards are going to be attached with full sections of high performance velcro, this will allow users to adjust sleeve length and shoulder placement.

    This is a one time offer for these suits and to help us get our product finalized for 2014-

    Price $109 SHIPPED within the USA add an additional $20.00 for International Destinations..

    If there is enough interest, I'll get some photos up and we'll go from there..

    Any questions please feel free 509-217-7118

    Thank You
    sincerely
    jf
    john franklin
  19. beechum1

    beechum1 Grimace Soup

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    Are the zippers still in the right hand position?
  20. 1Bonehead

    1Bonehead Fearless of Falling

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    I am game. I will take one, pics?