Just wondering about Harleys.

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Max Buffet, Oct 18, 2012.

  1. DAKEZ

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    I am in Eugene. If you can make it here or Portland let me know. (PM)
    We can take a few bikes out to help you see what (if any) is to your liking. :beer
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  2. nskitts

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    Like the OP, I am 6'3" and have owned a KLR, a DL1000, FZ6, etc. I have a Road Glide now and it is my Long Term Bike. I payed it off, and it will always stay in my stable as long as I ride. It is not pretty like a Road King but I have great storage, weather protection, handling, and an open cockpit. In fact, today it was rainy and I stayed relatively dry even though I didn't have any weather-proof gear on. Some people don't like stereos on their bikes, but I was able to listen to the Ohio State game today while riding to a BBQ festival and I stopped to pick up a few beers at the end of the day and several dudes gathered around my bike as we listened to the last seconds of an exciting game.

    To make this my perfect cross-country bike I would like to get: -a trunk, a rider backrest, heated clothing (the Harley touring bikes have a robust alternator), and rainproof gear.

    Any of the bikes mentioned will be good, I just give my personal experience.
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  3. sargev55

    sargev55 Been here awhile

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    i understand that.

    except i happen to have a sporty 1200 roadster, and have no desire to own any of the road couches of any manufacture. problem with that is, my bike is extremely well made and fit and finish is still excellent, and thats on my low end bike, that is now 7yrs old and has 22k rough miles. before i bought my roadster i tested a whole bunch of bikes, most were technically superior, except the 1200r just 'felt' like a motorcycle.

    might as well call the bonneville, the thruxton, the w650 and now 800, the duc monster...i could go on, low end bikes.
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  4. PhilB

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    My daughter's last boyfriend had a 1200 sporty. She hated the thing, especially as a passenger; she made him take the Vespa if he was going to carry her anywhere. And I rode it, and it didn't feel like a motorcycle to me; it felt like a crude implement of destruction. I'm not a Harley-hater. I've ridden bikes that represent most of the lineup -- Sporties, Softails, V-Rod, Road King, XR1200. Most of those were pretty good bikes. I like the Road King a lot. But the Sportster, not so much.

    Every one of those IS a low end bike within their respective lineups.

    PhilB
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  5. BCC

    BCC I know better

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    I'm 6'3" too. Have an electra ultra and a hyper s. Might someday add something like the new husky 650, but I'm done with big adventure or sport touring bikes.

    The Harley is flat out the most satisfying to ride on tarmac at speeds 25 mph or less over the speed limit. Listening to tunes. In comfort.
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  6. Max Buffet

    Max Buffet Been here awhile

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    Thanks, you guys! Good info and I'm especially grateful to Dakez!
    I can get to Eugene without too much trouble. Plus, it's one of my favorite areas!
    It won't be very soon, but I'll be in touch.
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  7. Mrmerlin

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    since your a big guy,
    I would strongly suggest you cruise over to the Triumph dealer,
    get a ride on a Rocket III,
    you will be amazed at how balanced it is once the wheels start rolling.
    Moreso than the HD.

    That said make sure your holding on before you twist the throttle,
    as the bike may try to come out from under you,
    the shaft drive works well
    great brakes and handling to match,
    Not much will be able to keep up if your on the pipe,
    though its not a canyon scratcher it does have more lean then the HD baggers,
    you can find low mile versions for under 7K,
    SRSLY try one

    read this informative article

    http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG...enu/2008-menu/498-speedcell-batteries?start=1
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  8. 2tallnwide

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    Have you ever actually ridden a Victory Cross bike, or Vision? I can fully understand someone preferring a Harley for many different reasons, but it's hard to imagine anyone thinking the Harley is as spacious, or surpasses the ride of the big Vics. (unless they sell Harleys that is :lol3 )
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  9. Quedok

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    It looks like I am in the same boat as Max. I also own a GS that I will never get rid of and I too wanted another ride that was more relaxed. I agree that the Sportster won't fit the bill because of it's riding position. I tried the big Harleys along with the Victory's and big Triumphs and found the Triumph has the best fit of all.
    If you like Harley cruisers you will love the Triumph Thunderbird. Get the 1700 as it has more power and it feels great at any speed, and the sound is really something to listen too.
    I also have to agree with Mrmerlin about his comment on the Triumph Rocket. I was all ready to get a Thunderbird Storm until I got a chance to ride a Rocket Roadster. For bigs guys it's has a near perfect riding position and the power.........well it's exhilarating. Surprisingly easy to control once you get used to the torque but it can be addicting. Try them both if you can.
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  10. DAKEZ

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    Spacious? YES.

    Ride? Harley touring bike hands down over the touring Vic. And Dyna's and Softails over the Vics cruiser bikes... sorry but I have ridden several and the ride is the very reason I was able to do so as they were traded in for a Harley Mostly because they made the mistake of going on a test ride. :lol3

    The Vic's are a better fit for tall humans than a Harley. :nod A Raider S and a Stratoliner are even better for Tall people than the Vic.
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  12. ozmoses

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    Been wondering since last Spring...

    Was about to ask the same/similar questions so I'll just tack on here.

    Generally, I like older bikes but I understand the 70's were not a great time for HD,;although as kids we had a Harley-AMF 175(?) to run around on which was a lot of fun.

    The 60's vintage are gorgeous but more cash than I can justify at present.

    For me, I think it's a Dyna. Currently eyeballing a '95 with less than 20k miles; looks new.

    In fact, quite a few HDs have what seems to me ultra low mileage for their age. I'm unsure if that is a problem as far as seals, etc, or not?

    Also, I read quite a few remarks about the HD handling in terms of ground clearance, scraping in corners,etc. Seems to me these are mostly the bigger bikes, the RK for example. I'd think any large touring bike w/ floorboards and so forth would do the same. The Dyna, much like the Sportster looks to have more than adequate clearance for sportier riding,no?

    To me, the Dyna looks much like a larger version of a Sportster?

    Also, pricing seems fairly consistent to a point -right @ $10k; they obviously hold their value ?


    As is evident, I'm an HD n00b so any personal experiences are welcome.
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  13. Clint Taurus

    Clint Taurus Been here awhile

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    Quit wondering and test drive at the Dealer. The three I've been to were very helpful and knowledgeable and accommodating for test rides.
    I went from a '05 GS I bought new, to a '08 Dyna Fat Bob i bought in '11 with 198 miles on it, to a '12 Road King purchased in May this year.
    I put 40,000 miles on the GS in 7 years , 10,000 miles on Fat Bob in a year and now 10,000 on the Road King in 6 Months...yes I really like the Road King
    With the strong aftermarket and huge dealer network you can make any Harley anything you want it to be except ultralight weight.
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  14. rudolf35

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    I just picked up a 05 Dyna with 7k on the clock; gave a very reasonable 7k for and have been smiling since. True, the bike needs Racetech spring and emulators, a set of rear suspenders but besides that it is one of the most fun bikes I own ( for a picture look at my http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=730380 thrad; 5th page).

    What I am stating with all that is, that there are so many hanger queens out there why get new? The PO took it throught the "infant mortality" stage and I will just rack up miles and smiles. :clap
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  15. vnp514

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    I'm wondering if three would be a crowd? I too am looking for the same type bike(HD vs Victory).
    Just a thought. :evil

    Pete
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  16. sargev55

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    as you said,

    the sportster 1200 IS a crude implement of destruction :D:rofl thats why its awesome!

    your definition of 'low end,' is kinda weird though.

    'low end,' to me, would be some chinese copy or or a half hearted knock off, of the bike i would want.
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  17. PhilB

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    That's why I said "low end of their respective ranges", not "low end overall". We had been talking about Sportsters, and the context of that being the low end Harley. It's not a low end bike overall, but is the entry-level HD. So I was speaking in the same idea, and said so specifically. So "some chinese copy or or a half hearted knock off" wasn't even in the picture.

    The Bonneville-based bikes are the entry-level Triumphs; I don't think they make anything cheaper than those. The W-bikes are not Kawasaki's lowest end, but they are definitely in the bottom half of the line-up. The Monsters are clearly Ducati's lowest/cheapest/entry-level models. We were talking about major manufacturers, mostly of upper-end bikes to start with.

    If I note (correctly) that the Porsche Boxster is their low end car, that doesn't mean it's low end in the whole car market; it's the entry-level *Porsche*. If someone pops up and says he likes the entry-level BMW (say, the 135i) better than the entry level Porsche, that conversation does not have anything necessarily to do with the high end models of either manufacturer, and even less to do with a Kia or something.

    PhilB
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  18. sargev55

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    oh yeah! a whole new can of worms :1drink

    the 135i is bad ass, the smallest and most nimble of the current bmw line-up, and has huuuuuge potential. (i wish i could have kept my rust free 1970 bmw 2002 /cry )

    the boxster...uh, just buy a used 911 please, preferably aircooled. :D


    btw Phil, you have some epic rides :clap
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  19. PhilB

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    Thanks.

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  20. 2tallnwide

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    No need to be sorry, you are just different than the vast majority I have talked to, including myself. The Harley is little, slow, and antiquated feeling compared to the Vic.

    There were two Harleys traded in on the first demo day I went to as well. Most of the guys at both demo days rode there on Harleys, but the conversations after the test rides were at least 90% in favor of the Vics.
    :deal
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