I was curious about the weight difference between my bike & the Full Circle Ninja. I removed the skid pan, engine guards, tail rack & passenger peg mounts so I could make a more direct comparison & see where the extra weight is. His weighed 388 with 3 gallons of fuel, with the fluff removed mine is 420 with 5.4 gallons. Minus 2.4 gallons of fuel it's 404.6 lbs. The difference (16.4 lbs) is not as bad as I feared. From what I've read the stock muffler is easily 10lbs of that. I feel better now I am looking harder at making my own engine guards, I think I can save 7-8lbs there, the skid pan is 5lbs total with the brackets, I might do something different with the front mounts, but the pan itself is very well designed to work with the stock muffler. Yesterday's ride completely convinced me the bike is a keeper, so I need to make it more presentable. I'd rather ride, but I'm going to have to strip it to paint/powdercoat. I hate to make it too pretty though knowing it will get some trail rash.