Kawasaki take notice, another Ninja Mutant is being built

Discussion in 'Some Assembly Required' started by pjm204, Oct 25, 2011.

  1. pjm204

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    I dunno, it lasted 16 years, couldn't have been too big of a failure. Sad we never got it here. This engine is a little more potent though, should prove to be a very fun/capable bike.

    My only concern is how much the steering will be reduced with the USD forks, hopefully the 25mm offset will help.
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  2. Tonibe63

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    Lack of power and petrol tank too small.
    We have them over here in the UK and values seem to hold up well but they don't get much of a following.
    Now if Kawasaki put decent suspension on the Versys they would have a fantastic bike but then I suppose the price would go up towards BMW/Triumph XC level and to command that sort of money you need good 'brand' image which they just don't have.
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  3. Ridin'nFishin

    Ridin'nFishin Been here awhile

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    I know this idea would be more work/money.

    Could a different swing arm be adapted to give the Versys more travel to match the travel of the converted front suspension?
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  4. ben2go

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    Upgrading the shock allows for more travel.The up travel will be limited by the rear frame and liner/fender pan.Check JDRocks build thread.
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    In order to use a different swingarm you would need to change the frame since the shock is mounted on the right side instead of in the center of the frame
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  6. Ridin'nFishin

    Ridin'nFishin Been here awhile

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    Yes, I have read all his threads.
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  7. Ridin'nFishin

    Ridin'nFishin Been here awhile

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    This can be done with more time, work and money?
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    So youre the guy...:lol3

    I thought he was dealing with some guy in tn who couldn't get his act together, but could be he was dealing with multiple guys. I just told him I'd pay his asking price in cash and ready to roll. It makes it even more funny that I had bought a ninja to do your build and it ended up being stolen hence looking for another donor.

    For the guy asking about swingarm s, it's def doable. You would probably need to replace or modify the subframe extensively to either run a ktm swinger without linkage, reengineer a link suspension or build your own swingarm that either uses the stock location for the to p mount or build a custom mount. Def can do it, and the money isn't really that much more, I have maybe $50 for a ktm swinger, $300 for a ktm shock and $20 in steel and brackets.

    Don't know if it's going to work yet but I do have 12" travel front and rear with a sweet shock.

    I'm just going to have to find a ninja and try it.:deal
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    I would agree that the money is not the issue here. It just requires a lot more work. You'd then want to strip the frame down to repaint it after all the welding. I'm going to try and keep my frame/subframe uncut. I wish the subframe was bolt on.

    I would have paid the asking price too but I couldn't get there in time. And at the time I had no where to store a project. But your bike turned out great.
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  10. Ridin'nFishin

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    Your bike is bad ass, that for sure.

    There have been some great builds here and I enjoy reading and thinking of the easy way to ride one of these bikes. Bolt on everything no welding is the easy way. I just don't think it can be done without some kind of mods done to the swing arm. I don't know maybe make the swing arm a inch or two longer?

    All the builds I have looked at are great, some greater than others, (JDrocks)
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    Well I lost power this weekend so all I did was changed the tires on the V-strom...sorry for the lack of progress. I got to look at all the beautiful parts that had arrived.
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    Alright, so this upcoming weekend I should be moving most of my stuff to my new house, hopefully the ninja tags along into the new garage. If it does, I'll start stripping off bodywork and taking pictures.
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    PJM204

    Just found these build threads and have found them very interesting. One thing I have seen on is that 21 inch front tires are only available in narrow 3.00in wide. With this heavy of a bike would a larger tire be better like the 19 inch would offer. Some are even using rear dirt tires for the front. Seem much better in soft dirt. Not sure of the negative impacts.

    Good luck with the build!
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    JDRocks has stated in his thread that he gets 10,000+ miles out of some of his front tires on a 21 inch V-Strom front wheel.Plus it all depends on if you're running street or dual sport tires and if they are bias ply or radial construction.
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    better now.
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    Sorry to say that there is little to report at this time. I unboxed and shelved all of the parts in my new garage. I'll get started on it sooner or later...and once I get started I'll move quickly.
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    Yes.I got caught up.:(:
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    Alright so I finally got working on the build. I stripped off all of the plastics, took off the wheels, suspension is off.
    Mocked up the front and rear ends and I'm currently waiting to make some parts. Sadly the conversion bearings I would need (25mm x 55mm x 14mm) don't seem to be available anywhere. So I need to make a sleeve for the stem to fit the ninja bearings. The rear KTM wheel looks like it will work out perfectly with some spacers.

    Here is what I need to make/buy/alter to get it rideable:

    25mm ID x 35mm OD steering stem sleeve

    several 20mm spacers for rear axle

    Bore out R1 shock bushings

    Weld extension for brake caliper hanger

    Future tasks:

    Make headers

    Fit muffler

    Cut down oil pan drain

    Sort headlight/fairing

    etc etc
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