Kawasaki Versys-X 300

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by shyam334, Nov 8, 2016.

  1. PaD

    PaD Serial beginner

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    Maybe it's intended for me :-)
    160lb ( without gear), 5'8"
    Sometimes I think he vx300 is just like any road bike was years ago ( but with a nice looking fairing) Wire spoke wheels, 19" front, wheel travel about 5", upright seating position. Not really hard core adventure, more practical every day bike.
    Still interested even if I expected more wheel travel. Will absolutely test ride.
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  2. MariusD

    MariusD Long timer

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    Perspective is everything...

    40-50lb of extra weight on your bike and an inch or two more in width can be significant or mean nothing, depending on your use of the bike. Initially, this bike to me offered nothing of value vs my DL650, as in terms of weekend touring and daily commuting from suburbia into the city the vstrom does everything better than this bike. However, as of the coming weekend, I will be moving into the city, and I have made note to self before that for inner city navigation, the vstrom is actually too bulky... so, go figure! I am going to be taking a second look at this bike.

    Perspective is everything...
  3. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2013 DR650

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    MariusD,

    I agree.

    There is a new video on YouTube of a guy having some fun on the 300.

    Could he do that on a 474lbs Wee, sure. But I could not.

    It's almost 90lbs and way more higer COG.

    If highway droning and gear load is so important, get a V2. it's only 30lbs heavier.
  4. MariusD

    MariusD Long timer

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    Yep, and that's the part that makes all the difference when you have to navigate tight city streets with crazy traffic, park on sidewalks or on the street in tight spaces. That 90 extra lb and high COG really becomes a major PITA to manage on the vstrom in these conditions.

    When living out in the burbs I never noticed those "issues" on the vstrom. The vstrom couldn't be more perfect for that environment.

    Different tools for different jobs.
  5. x32792

    x32792 Retired Cracker American

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    Someone with more money and more storage space has suggested we all need 3 bikes: A fly-weight, a mid-weight and a 'good gawd almighty let's ride to San Diego and back' big boy. For those of us with less disposable income and a small garage (if any), it will always be a compromise.
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  6. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2013 DR650

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    Unless the tourism company you signed on with has a different MC for the conditions. That would be fairly expensive tour.

    East coast: Versys X. Washimgton County Maine to St. Louis
    Mid west S10 ( not the V4, no cruise control, eff that bike) St. Louis to the bad lands of South Dakota
    Rockies WR250R...Or a something shorter for some riders Bad Lands to just on the other side of the Cascades.
    West coast Versys 650 (2015+) West of Cascades in Washington to San Diego ( port of exit)
  7. MotoChris521

    MotoChris521 Long timer

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    The CB500X has always been a versatile machine but it's never been known for its off-road capability. With 5.5 inches of suspension travel in front and 4.7 inchesin the rear, along with the 17 inch cast wheels and only 6.5 inches ground clearance, the stock CB500X is limited to light trail work.Apr 3, 2015
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  8. branthopolis

    branthopolis Long time lurker Noob

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    So you've found a way to do without it.. Thats nice.. :) What do you do when your trunk is full because you're loaded out for a few weeks on the road. Pretty much just means I have more options to carry things than you do.
  9. branthopolis

    branthopolis Long time lurker Noob

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    My GPS sits in my FOV while riding.. Anything else needing use in the tank bag waits until I'm pulled off the side of the road.
  10. adsinger

    adsinger Ride fast. Stop often.

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    My main reason for a tankbag is for photo gear. I like to document my trips and have found it far more convenient to have the camera in the tankbag in front of me than having to get it out of the tailbag. I toss my phone and wallet in there too. That, sunglasses, a cap, and a sidestand plate is about al I put in. I can park up grab the tankbag and go knowing I have pretty much all I need for a road stop. I can see the issue with a ponderous, tall bag sitting up there, but a small bag really has no effect on handling.
  11. asphaltsurfer1

    asphaltsurfer1 CatManDoo

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    I've gone to handlebar mount soft bags as smaller alternatives to tank bags being partially filled and that I had to remove on fueling. Touratech, Giant Loop and others have great options from really small to about a liter or so.
  12. SpaceStation#4

    SpaceStation#4 Adventurer

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    The space between dual sport and adventure bike begins to blur just a bit. Still street....but a little more dirt. Or is it just slick marketing hype?

    This makes the X look like a little Africa Twin out in the native Savannah grass.

  13. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2013 DR650

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    Mostly slick marketing hype.

    However, when you upgrade the suspension for your needs and put on a skid plate, bark busters and engine guards, the bike actually starts to become more of a dual
    Sport and not an ADV Bike.

    Why?
    1. Most ADV Bikes are north of 480lbs
    Most dual sports are south of 320lbs.
    The 300 is closer to dual sport weight.

    2. Wheel base
    Most ADV Bikes are around 60"+
    Most dual sports are around 55"
    The 300 is closer to the dual sports again.

    3. COG
    Due to larger engines, the ADV tend to have higher center of gravity. Especially with a fuel cell topped off to make the 250 mile mark
    The short stroke of 49mm on the 300, keeps things lower for more flickability. Espically after a long day in the bush.

    ____
    After a good five years after all of the aftermarket stuff, most Inmates may see the 300 as a platform bike. Things would get sick with the 21" front mod. We could still keep the 41mm forks.
    Much how the MIGHTY DR is seen as a platform bike.

    Dual sports are good for weekend fun and for a light gear load. They can be taken on epic tours.
    The 300 could concentrate in short weekend fun or long distance touring, it's what the owner wants to do.
  14. cyclopathic

    cyclopathic Long timer

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    Or KLR.

    I can't wait for someone else chugging out lighter modern EFI version of these practical mules (DR, KLR).. would it be VX300, CRF300 Rally, KTM 390 ADV or SWM SuperDual. G310GS or WR250 with R3 engine to name another possibilities.
  15. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2013 DR650

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    Yeah, the stage 3 RR package would be nice. Basically a better KLR, except for low down torque.

    I'm such a easy going guy, I would have a two bike garage.
    DR200 ( stock) 278lbs. Around town use and weekend fun.
    Versys X 300 (geared for highway use). Commuting to work and long trips on the road.

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    I hope BMW makes the 310 with a 21" front have a 5.5 gallon tank and a above average suspension.
    That would be an OK 1 up All Rounder out of the box.
  16. kojack

    kojack AMF!

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    My wife and I were talking last night. WE both agreed that we are going to have a multi bike stable. I have kicked the klr idea around and settled on the v-x300, 2 of them...one for me one for her, 2 ninja 300s and 2 klx 140 gs. I am going to add a z and some sort of crusier and we have everything we ever want to do. Since our oldest is gone...most of our riding now will be with my youngest on back with me.
  17. adsinger

    adsinger Ride fast. Stop often.

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  18. Rajah

    Rajah Been here awhile

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    If the Versys just had a decent 7 inches of suspension it would have been everything I need to replace my bike. I feel like both of these bikes are just so close but not exactly what I want. I know I'm going to buy one of these 2 and I'll have to figure out which things I can live with/without more easily. I've always been of the mind that the most bang for your buck is suspension though. More does not necessarily = better. And there's no deal killer on either bike for me either.
  19. Lesharoturbo

    Lesharoturbo Nerdly Adventurer

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    I think that getting an inch or two more travel would not be a major issue on the Versus. Just new forks and shock. Maybe even as simple as swapping sliders on the forks. Can't wait to see what can be done.
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  20. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2013 DR650

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    The Versys and the GS are set up for high rpms. Hell, their torque and HP are about the same. The separation begins at how and when the engines produce their torque.

    If the weight was less on the BMW, I would give her more on the objective score card. Sadly, it is not.
    The GS should handle better and be more user friendly in unforgiving conditions.

    I will go into Roanoke after I have set up a demo ride.
    The GS should be tested out.