Kenda TrakMaster II's (DOT approved, barely?)

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by TigersCanFly, Apr 24, 2002.

  1. TigersCanFly

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    :evil Just mounted the Kenda's on Monday. Road the bike to work on Tuesday(27 degrees F in the am), I took a 1 mile river trail section with hardpack, sand and few small jumps/bumps. These tires work unbelievably well on the blacktop, and they are not even broke in. The bike is still smooth, likes to go straight, stable up to 75 mph(fastest I went so far) and competent in the corners. There were no suprises, they are totally predictable. On the way home from work, I decided to give a favorite single track that is 6 miles long a try. I love this trail on my XT. Along with the smaller front sprocket and the awesome knobs, and upgraded front suspension, this bike is quite the trail bike for being 540 lbs. I tried a loosish hill climb last week with the T66's and made it half way. Yesterday I shot to the top with autority. I am having to re-learn how to ride the Tiger off-road, it is a hoot. I climbed a very loose sand dune that is about 35 feet high. It was simply amazing how the bike roosted to the top with out having to dab! Then I rooste to the top in 2nd gear at about 7,000 rpm! Coming down the dune was very predictable and actually fun. I then got into the woods section, complete with tree roots crossing the trail at all angles. The bike tracked straight. I then started getting comfortable with riding like I was on a much smaller bike. I completed a trail that I never thought I would do on the Tiger. I recommend the Trakmaster II's to anyone that doesn't mind loosing some on road manners, but gaining 10 fold offroad ability.

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  2. TigersCanFly

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    TRACTION

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  3. Rob Z

    Rob Z Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the report. Only 75mph so far. Dam that is out my drive-way speed:smile6

    Keep us posted on their wear. As I do 99% on road, but want to do more off road play. I have thought about getting a 2nd set of rims. One with street and one with mostly dirt. As it is almost impossible, for me, to change a tire on the Tiger.
    I want to do the Trans-Continential trail this summer, but stree tires are out and dirt tires wound be wasted befor I got to the trail.

    How about price and where you got them.
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  4. RedMenace

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    Try Chaparral, Dennis Kirk, MAW or

    http://www.tiresunlimited.com/
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  5. JayV2

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    Figured I'd dredge this thread back up and see if anyone else has recent experience with these tires.
    I'm looking for a 17/21" knobbie setup that simply needs to be the most agressive knobbie possible for mixed terrain. DOT status is unimportant since the bike will not be ridden on the road with these tires.
    Could use a 130/90-17 or 140/80-17 rear.
    The TrakMaster looks pretty good among a short list of competitors since the 17" rear wheel size is the limiting factor.
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  6. DRZ400SK4

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    I use the K760 on the rear of my DRZ400 all the time. I'm on my fifth or sixth one. I have it set up as a deep geared, serious off road bike. I prefer the K776 on the front, however.

    They are excellent DOT off road tires. I've tried 'em all.

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  7. JayV2

    JayV2 Muddy Boxer

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    Great pics:thumb
    - any specific reason you prefer the 776 front vs the 760?
    (from the standpoint of versatile off-road traction & no street)
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  8. BikePilot

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    If you don't need dot there are a lot of MX tires that do better than the 760's for hard riding. The 760's have tall knobs, but are quite heavy and have a weird feel if you push them hard in the dirt as compared to a mx tire (I bought a YZ once that came with 760's). I don't know what is available in a 17" rear though so a 760 might be as good as it gets. Also, I'm guessing that whatever bike you are riding with a 17" rear may not be a real dirt bike and you may not push it hard enough for the differences in flex charcteristics of the carcas to matter much.

    At the least you could pick an off road only front tire to save some weight and gain a little performance. Something like a dunlop 952 makes a good all around front tire for trail riding on mixed terrian.

    good luck
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  9. dirt missile

    dirt missile Been here awhile

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    I just mounted one that I found by accident at the salvage yard while looking for car parts. It had about 90-95% left on it… for $10! Now that’s a deal! (who the hell would though away a new tire like that?)
    Man, what a great off road DOT tire. A little different from my IRC GP-1 on the road, but who cares.
    I tried it in some wet & muddy and suddenly I was a much better rider. Tractors right through the muck. But WOW is it noisy on the road, and rides a bit funny on the tarmac… on the DRZ, anyway. For that matter it was loose in the hard pack turns too, but awesome in a straight line.
    I have a new set of Maxxis 6006’s waiting to be mounted, but now I’m wondering… ahh, I still have to try the 6006’s, they look really knarly. Anyone try them yet?
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  10. JayV2

    JayV2 Muddy Boxer

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    I was eyeing the Maxxis 6001's when I stumbled across the TrakMasters. They look pretty agressive, but I don't think they are DOT if it matters.
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  11. paochow

    paochow Bye bye desert

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    I'm another fan of the Trackmaster II. Works great in the soft stuff and wears ok on the hard stuff. I've used them on my DRZ and EXC both with excellent results.

    Just make sure to take it easy on the pavement for the first 100mi or so, otherwise the tire can start to chunk.
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  12. paochow

    paochow Bye bye desert

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    Trackmasters are DOT, stamped right on the tire.
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  13. DRZ400SK4

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    The front K760 tends to get a little squirrely on pavement. The 776 hooks up just as well in the dirt, but has better pavement manners.

    The K776 is the closest thing I could find to the Michelin AC10 (Also a great off road front tire), buts it's much cheaper, and seems to work and last just as well.


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  14. jgunsett

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    I'm on my 3rd set of Trackmasters on my DRZ400S. It's just about the best thing you'll find in a DOT knobby, and is great in just about all conditions (fair in mud, great in just about anything else you'll hit). I have the Michelin Ac-10s on my CRF450X. The AC-10s are lighter, and better off road, but they're also a lot more expensive, and don't last nearly as long as the Kendas. I've heard of a lot of riders running a Pirelli DOT knobby on the front (not sure of the model, but I think it's an M-16) and a Kenda Trackmaster on the back. I'm going to try this combo next on my DRZ.
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  15. Transalp Jas

    Transalp Jas Been here awhile

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    I ran trackmaster II's on my 'alp for a season awhile back. Great tires, but I went through them pretty fast. Great on the road, even better in the dirt. I'd still buy them again, but not if I was planning a lot of travelling. Planning to add a second bike for road duty, and after that it'll probaly be all trackmasterII's for the 'alp.
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  16. DireWolf

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    None on the Tiger, but I have a rear TMII on my Husky (TE510) - seems pretty nice..... :nod
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  17. Cos

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    How many miles would you expect to get out of these puppies with mixed riding? I'd probably tear them up in a short amount of time.

    Nice looking tires, but given how i use the Tiger, i'll probably stay with Tourance/Anakee/blah blah type of tire.
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  18. DireWolf

    DireWolf Knees in the Breeze

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    Dunno - they were on the bike when I got it. I minimize (as best I can) the bitumen, and the TE is less than 1/2 the weight of the Tiger. I'd guess I will get 2 oil changes out of the rear. That's 1,000 miles....... :lol3

    I'd shred one of these on the Tiger - I am a TKC fan on that pig.
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  19. Cos

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    Let's see...so far...Anakee and Distanzias on mine. The Anakee did fine, my front Distanzia cupped pretty bad. Next in the batter's box, a set of Battlewings. By the time the Tiger's turned to a pile of rust, i'll probably put on every brand and type known to man...some that aren't too. :lol3
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  20. DRZ400SK4

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    Not many!

    2000 to 3000 miles and it will be toast.

    Don't buy the K760 for it's wear characteristics. Buy it only if you're looking for uncompromising off road traction.

    Even my DRZ400 eats through a couple of these on the rear each year.


    But if you really want to hook up in the dirt, the K760 will make even tires like the TKC80 and the D606 look like a total joke.

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