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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by SCQTT, Apr 16, 2009.

  1. Bar None

    Bar None Candy Ass

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    Also
    "SECTION 1. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 55-8-164, is amended by adding the
    following language as a new subsection:
    (e) No operator of a motorcycle shall carry nor permit to ride thereon any person
    under the age of twelve (12) years.
    (1) The first violation of this subsection is a Class C misdemeanor
    punishable only by a fine not to exceed one hundred fifty dollars ($150).
    (2) The second violation of this subsection within five (5) years of a prior
    conviction of such offense is a Class C misdemeanor punishable only by a fine
    not to exceed two hundred fifty dollars ($250). "
    LEO should ticket this operator.
  2. DAKEZ

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    12? Bullshit LAW!

    Leo should see the kid having a good time with his Dad and tell them to take care. :deal
  3. kneeslider

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    those who can not make to decision for themselves to go or not go in harms way.

    Age specific law, no, size & weight, yes!

    Another law to be considered is against animals on a motorcycle or in the back of pick up trucks.

    Endangering your so called "beloved" pet is asinine!
  4. Handy

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    Maybe they shouldn't be allowed to ride in a vehicle at all, after all that does endanger them. Do you buckle your dogs in?
  5. Griffin44

    Griffin44 Been here awhile

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    Yep. Otherwise she's a 29 kg projectile. I clean that stuff up for a living. No thanks. Don't want it happenin' to my baby.
  6. DAKEZ

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    You're asinine! My dog likes going for rides. :nod

    :ricky
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    How about a picture of how you strap your dog into a vehicle in a way that restrains it safely and humanely...
  8. Red9

    Red9 Been here awhile

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    I had a dog that liked drinking engine coolant, once...
    What's your point?
  9. Handy

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  10. kneeslider

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    reserved for Harleys!:rofl
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  12. kbroderick

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    I wouldn't count on any of the current "designed-for-the-car" harnesses to work.

    http://centerforpetsafety.org/research/

    Having looked at some of them in the store, I'd put more faith in a Ruffwear harness, which my friend's dog Luna endorses as a reasonable solution in a hack. She is usually unrestrained in the car, though, which I'd say is fairly reasonable based on the crash testing linked above—there's really no good way to attach the Ruffwear harness to the car, and in the hack, it's more of a "keep-her-from-getting-distracted-by-a-bird-or-a-squirrel" tool than intended as a crash restraint.

    Personally, I think it's all about deciding what risk is reasonable given the benefit. I know that riding a motorcycle is inherently more dangerous than driving a car, and skiing is also inherently dangerous. I'll be damned if I have any intention of stopping either activity, given any say in the matter.

    With respect to pets and children, they obviously can't make the decisions themselves, either in accepting risk or in choosing mitigating actions such as protective gear or crash restraints, so the adults who are responsible have to weigh the risks and benefits. I'm pretty confident that, even if Luna could understand the risk of being in a car, she'd still choose to get in every time she had the choice between coming along and staying home.

    On a related note, a dog standing up in the sidecar shortly before hitting a bump on a tight right-hand corner can result in flying the car, but that was an AppGap fail, not a Tail of the Dragon fail, and I don't have any photos. Fortunately, everyone made it home in one piece.
  13. DAKEZ

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    My point is: Keep your overbearing laws off my person, Off MY kids and off MY pets.
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    ShardPhoenix Наглый ублюдок

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    :stfu
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  16. Bar None

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    DAKEZ,
    Please tell me that you are kidding.
    Society needs to protect those that cannot protect themselves.
    I don't consider it an overbearing law to protect children from their ignorant parents.
  17. astrolump

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    sheesh...
    everyone and everything dies, no one is special. there are nearly 7 billion of us. we kill and eat millions of animals a week..and i for one find them delicious...and somebody is gonna get bent about a dog on a motorcycle.
    you know how the human race is going to end....soon everyone will be a woman.
  18. RidingDonkeys

    RidingDonkeys Purveyor of Awesome

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    Most countries that I have lived in actually require that the pet be restrained in a vehicle. It prevents two things. First, it stops idiots from being idiots and driving around with Fido in their lap. Second, it stops the dog from becoming a projectile that kills passengers in a high speed accident.

    Of course, the same could happen with your groceries. I once spent 20 minutes on the side of a highway in Belgium getting lectured by a police officer about the deadly nature of the 20 racks of beer in my wagon...you know....should they go flying when I slam on the brakes. I assured him that I would never do anything to endanger my Trappistes Rochefort, but he didn't believe me.

    Sent from the voices in my head and transcribed by their drinking buddy...
  19. RidingDonkeys

    RidingDonkeys Purveyor of Awesome

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    Amen to that. #1 Hack Monkey did this once. It scared him more than it did me, and he's never done it again. Weight shift of any sort in the hack can cause serious problems for the pilot. Most people don't realize how sensitive these rigs really are.


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  20. Mark_O

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    When I was growing up we didn't wear seatbelts, bicycle helmets, and didn't have nerf playgrounds. We learned that stupid hurts at a young age. How did we survive without the nanny state?