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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by SCQTT, Apr 16, 2009.
We met on the Snake last year.
This poor guy, I wonder if he knows he's being roasted yet.
And now that I took part in the roasting, my own karma is in negative territory and I'll either drop my bike in front of many witnesses, or someone will photograph me doing something really stupid... happens every time.
You guys are a bunch of meanies.
and this is all because a "real rider" NEVER crosses the line???
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.. jeez gentlemen!
There is no benefit of the doubt when you are on the wrong side of the road and there's a vehicle in the other lane! I don't care if people cross the strips when there's no one else coming the other way (and they are able to ascertain that ahead of time), but this looks just plain foolish. Not to mention there's little reason to be going so friggen slow
What if the sport bike rider were equally inept? There would have been a major accident. Thank goodness Mr. sportbike is holding a tight line (or adjusted to one when he realized this thing was in his lane).
About the only "justifiable" reason I can think of is if the GS rider were able to note the sport bike's tight line early on, then decided to pass a slow rider in front of him in this manner, even then that's a bit aggressive and doesn't leave much room for error. I'm all for going around slow riders, but not when someone else is coming the other direction.
For the folks saying its ok, give him the benefit of the doubt etc - what would you have said if it were a sport bike upright on the wrong side of the road and a GS holding a tight inside line? I'm fairly certain this would be a huge rant about squids etc with none of this ballanced talk :lol
At least he's ATGATT
That's all fine and dandy, but I'd be willing to bet that this picture was at a very bad moment in his riding. With all his gear and accessories (and the ADV sticker heh) I think it's safe to assume that the guy has some decent seat-time. Of course, he could be a total poseur and be fooling us all! But the odds are in his favor.
None of us were there and we shouldn't pass blind judgment.
Sometimes a funny picture is just a funny picture!!
You do NOT lose Karma points for calling an idiot an idiot. This guy needs to go back to the parking lot and stay off the scary twisty roads until he learns how to handle the bike.
I bet he bought the bike with the sticker already on it and it is his first bike. Put him on a Ninjet 250 so he can learn to ride. He his going to kill someone.
Thirdly stay the hell off the painted lines, they're so slippery, especially when wet.
So it is you.
This must be one of those inmates who wandered too far from Starbucks. Stay the hell off of our roads if you can't grasp the concept of lane discipline.
Because riding a ninja 250 instantly improves your riding skills?
At the pace he's riding there's no reason to have crossed the center line... on a left hander too. Turning too tight by accident would be stupid, passing on a turn like that would be stupid, and a mistake like that can have dire consequences, I don't care what you ride.
On the other hand, we've all big mistakes while riding which could have really cost us (and for some of us, it did).
If this thread doesn't belong in "perfect line" then I don't know what does...
This is the classic example of a MUCH too early apex and has n00b written all over it.
If I were that rider going the other way I'd have my 139dB Stebel blasting his ass a wake-up call to get the F456 out of my lane. Yes, it does sound like a train or big truck is coming right at you when you push that horn button. It scares the crap out of me when I push the button and I'm ready for it. He can clean his pants out when he finds the side (the OTHER SIDE) of the road and stops.
When someone finds out who this is there should be a sticker-stripping party...
Nothing wrong with this lane placement at all - turn in is off, he should be 30-40 degrees leftward of where he is pointing... You can see through the turn you are in, and into the next 1 (2?) turns???
The original photo shows a guy squeezing into the lane of an oncoming bike. Replace "bike" with "van" and you may have a dead idiot biker.
The dude is an asshat, and is one of the prime reasons I currently have 2 people that I call to go ride. Until proven a non-idiot, I assume other riders ride in a manner that puts them and me at risk. I've seen this proven to be true too many times.
I agree with you about crossing the line when site lines are good, but I think this photo is just the other side of the same curve as the first photo. It sure doesn't look like it's got good site lines all the way through. It would seem that to be where he is now, he'd have had to of ridden on the centerline through the bad visibility portion of the corner.
...but maybe not, perhaps he's late apexing once he can see the line..
Monday morning QB: off.
Yeah, will give you that. I assumed a straight coming to the left I commented on. If it was say a 180 degree or better turn, then yes, he was placed well into oncoming traffic he couldn't see.
At least I understand why so many of you dress for the crash now....
Last time I was on the Dragon, it was slathered in scowling THP cops. Several asshat idiots like this one had caused a couple of nasty wrecks that day.
So I decided to go über-balls-out in the corners... but resolved to only use the right-hand part of my lane. I wicked it up to maybe 34mph on the few "straights".
There were several spots I was cranking a monster lean angle at all of 25mph, right in front of a cop wearing his best Village People mirrored sunglasses meanie face.
It was actually a hell of a lot of fun and excellent practice. Without much of a "line" to choose from, I had to concentrate on the techniques required to simply deal with the road surface, contours, and curves at hand.
Riding bikes, that are too big for your skill level, into oncoming traffic is adventurous spirit!