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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by SCQTT, Apr 16, 2009.

  1. ttpete

    ttpete Rectum Non Bustibus

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    If that had been me on the bike, the second that that asshole stepped out of the truck with the tire iron would have resulted in my shooting his sorry ass. And I'd have been fully justified in doing so, having seen him attempt to murder my friend eight minutes before, then attempting to kill me with an iron bar.

    That road had a double yellow all the way, even though there were plenty of places to pass with ample sight distances. That just encourages drivers to violate the markings and pass others.
  2. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

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    Justified... Maybe. But then you would need to live with the fact that you took another human's life when other options were open to you. :deal

    In full Gear I am in no way afraid of the asshat with his - whatever it was he was holding- and would have happily addressed it in a less lethal manner.
  3. Dolly Sod

    Dolly Sod Red Clay Halo

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    Pretty easy to see how you ride. I can tell you speed and pass on the double yellow all the time. Breakin the law, for no good reason besides you want to.


    Which ever Kia you settle on it sounds like we shouldn't let you drive. You can sit next to this guy.

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    :rofl


    Now seriously..

    You say you ride at the track, but it sounds like you've never hit an apex.

    Why? Because sometimes it seems like the right thing to do.:1drink
  4. SgtDuster

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    The only think I can say is this: wtf the word "apex" has to do with road riding?

    The right thing?
  5. lemieuxmc

    lemieuxmc Banned

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    He said shoot his sorry ASS, not kill him.

    Handgun mortality is less than 20%, hitting him in the head with a length of pipe is probably more lethal.

    Just sayin...
  6. Nevada

    Nevada Been here awhile

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    Look at the tags on the plate. Same bike, different day. One shot is earlier, tag is an '08. Other pic's tag is for '09. Pics could be up to two years apart, or two days.
  7. outlaws justice

    outlaws justice Long timer

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    Sorry, but you have me confused with yourself. I do not go around breaking the law for no good reason. Even if I wanted to I cannot afford what goes along with that, and that is a ticket. Even if I only get caught once, that would be enough to disrupt my ability to make a living.

    Can you even define Apex? Having an Apex does not mean it has to be in the other lane. On the street you treat your lane as the entire road, treat it as if you cross that double yellow in the turn that you have just left the road and are in the ditch. I ride my lines in such a manner, I still use my track technique in that I create a late entry point and in turn have a later apex so that as I exit any turn I have more room in my lane to make any necessary adjustments.

    On the track the entire width is your lane, there are no oncoming vehicles, no sand, gravel and other problems you can and often do encounter on the street. If you screw up and make a mistake on a turn you (At most tracks not all) have room for run off.

    "You say you ride at the track" I DO Ride at the track.

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    Ya, "SEEMS like the right thing to do", to me it seems like becoming a better rider makes more sense than riding in the oncoming traffic.

    I guess when your parents told you to go play in traffic you did.:lol3
  8. baloneyskin daddy

    baloneyskin daddy bikaholic

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    You mean to tell me you've never ridden a road where the switch backs are so sharp you literally come to a stop to negotiate the turn and you didn't even ,just slightly, minimally, just barely, just maybe let your guard down for a moment and maybe have brushed the death defying,cancer causing, paranoia inspiring double yellow line of the devil.:lol3
  9. outlaws justice

    outlaws justice Long timer

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    That is too funny! I am not perfect far from it, but when out on any of the bikes my life and the lives of those who depend on me are tied to my ability to ride. Have I made mistakes YES, even crashed (Note: on MY Side of the road) I try to ride within MY limits and leave room for the unexpected things that can pop up. INTENTIONALLY crossing the double solid is not a practice I follow or recommend.

    Again the point of traveling to these places is to enjoy the curves, so please tell me the point of making them straight? If that is what you want, move to Florida.
  10. dirtybikefrank

    dirtybikefrank Beast wrestler

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    Ladies, Ladies, your BOTH pretty.

    Now, let s see some mmore pics of people who CANT ride.
  11. gelandestrasse

    gelandestrasse Fidem Scit

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    I don't recall if this one's been posted already.
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  12. outlaws justice

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    LOL, That is what the conversation is all about, seems we have some people who think they are riding fine, there is no problem with their path of travel or technique. After all why stay in your lane, we all pay taxes on the whole thing, might as well use it all
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    gelandestrasse Fidem Scit

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  14. Moving Pictures

    Moving Pictures Sir Loin of Biff

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    I have sped. I don't any more. The only time I would cross the double-yellow to pass would be in one of those "abnormal" circumstances where there is a slow-moving vehicle (backhoe) or some such, and I'm absolutely certain that engaging in the manoeuvre won't end up with me being an F150 hood ornament. I think that's an acceptable situation, because usually, the slow-moving vehicle will move over, effectively allowing a pass without using the oncoming lane.

    What this "discussion" tells me is that prudence is often missing from motorcycle operation. Example: I came up on a tractor in a 80 km/hr (50mph) zone, as it was approaching a hill crest. I *probably* could have gassed it and got by safely, but I waited until both myself and the tractor ahead crested the hill and I could tell for sure.

    As it turns out, no traffic was coming the other way. But prudence suggests that maybe, just maybe, some asshat in a truck is blasting the other way. Or, around here, an ATV at full-tilt boogie illegally using the road or the highway (happens a lot.)

    Maybe my motivations are different. But it took me 25 years to find a woman that matches me in every conceivable fashion, and frankly, I think she deserves her husband coming home. *Probably* doesn't cut it.

    Actually, if you troll through my posts, you'll find I'm pretty much a safety zealot. I dare you to find me a post on this board (or any other) where I say it's OK to violate the posted speed limit (Basic common-sense passing of a slower-moving vehicle, in accordance to accepted passing protocols, notwithstanding.)
  15. Moving Pictures

    Moving Pictures Sir Loin of Biff

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    Bingo.

    PS: the family car is a Kia.
  16. DAKEZ

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    :huh indeed!!!

    That Z4 is just ALL wrong!!! How or why the fuk did he/she put that car in that position? :hmmmmm:scratch:dunno
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    I'd guess they just left the little pull-over area where the camera guy is at. Or they drifted sideways into that lane, does look like the front wheels are pointed to the left
  18. outlaws justice

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    From the perspective of some here, He is doing nothing wrong there is no on coming traffic, so why not cross the lines?
  19. Josephvman

    Josephvman I'm the Decider

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    I think that Z4 pic made it's way around some of the BMW forums, and as I recall the guy driving the car got crucified pretty badly. A couple of weeks ago a guy who just got his new 1M Coupe posted a video from the dragon, and was all over the road, including a couple of times having all four wheels on the wrong side of the line. I called him on it and got quite a few snide responses myself before the mods deleted the posts. His viewpoint was that as long as he can see through the corner then no harm, no foul. That's great, provided there's not some guy coming the other way who feels equally entitled to using both lanes. I think a lot of it is an age mentality, and that particular forum has a lot of invincible young guys posting. After they've seen a few bad crashes and been to a few funerals they might figure it out.
  20. outlaws justice

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    It seems to be the same attitude here for some, they use that attitude instead of learning how to ride and improving their skills. They seem to all think they are already better than Rossi.