My choice was either keep banging my head against the wall, or trying to explain what this thread is about. It was less painful with the wall, but since we are a big band of brother riders, here goes. We are NOT laughing at others as much as we are laughing in the face of the gods that it isnt us in those pictures. We are also relieving the pain and suffering some of us have gone through having done EXACTLY those same things we are commenting on. We are also making fun of pirates, because, well, we know THEY are wrong, and we are perfect. We do not want to see anyone get maimed or killed, but most of us have crashed, or had good friends crash. We want the message out that you can minimize some of the pain and suffering by wearing all the right gear. Do you not sit around the fire at the end of a ride and make fun of your buds? This is no different than that. You keep going on about that one sequence of shots with all these whatifs. Well, those whatifs didnt happen. yes, riders were hurt. They werent killed and the ones hurt posted the damned pictures themselves. Can you 100% guarantee to me that whoever takes those pics would even post them if they found out that someone was killed? I doubt that they would. Drop down into the Mulholland copy-cat thread and talk to that photog. he posts there. his vids show him running to assist fallen riders, too. I was at the overlook last year taking pics of a stunter going up and down the short stretch. When he biffed it, finally, we ran and checked on him (he was fine) and when I told him that I didnt have pics of the crash, he was a little mad. we all fuck up. we mostly all survive and we feel a little better about ourselves when we see others fuck up just like us. we dont feel good about anyone being killed, paralyzed, and really even hurt in the least.