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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by SCQTT, Apr 16, 2009.
Can you say learn not to GRAB the brakes?
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Or keep saying it but get ABS.
Ah yes this is the funeral I was after. I love it when they think that four fingers means "white knuckles". These people discredited themselves with their circular arguments and "grabbing" comments and .. oh.. oh... my favourite... "when I used to race" .....
Most of the questions people put forward here are about "best techniques" that put you at "lowest risk" on the public road. Then some clown comes in and says "forget survive the ride" let's go for a podium finish. Wrong tool for the job.. but then again what would you expect from a "tool".
"Best Practice" requires a definition of what you require for the benchmark.... On the public road perhaps I might be so bold to suggest that "Arrive Alive" might be a reasonable starting point. This then might lead me to the conclusion that ALL braking be done in a straight line, that ALL gear changing be done in a straight line and finally set your entry speed as constant through the whole corner... start out wide for vision, buffer from the "head on zone" and aim to finish tight. At all times buffer from any oncoming vehicles even if this means reducing your entry speed.
Of course this approach would mean that you would run "stone cold motherless last" in a competitive racing situation. Go for the "podium finish" on the "public road" and it may be a "stainless steel autopsy table" is the prize that you get. You'll be "stone cold"
Maybe you should review hydraulics 101 again
Why do they change the slave cylinder? to make the clutch pull lighter
It has to do with the applied force and the surface area ratio of the two pistons
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.....or you just adjust your levers properly. I've ridden two+two on the levers (both of them) since my hand was big enough to wrap around the grip and the lever without clamping any "extra" fingers.
I'd say it is whatever you are comfortable with. I started riding that way because it removed the temptation (and ability) to do a full four finger clamp on the front brake. That was over 20 years ago, my throttle and brake control goes all to hell if I try to four finger the brake lever, on the clutch it putzs with my timing for a couple gears. ...and I tend to ride bikes that the brakes will toss you ass over tea-kettle before you really have a change to correct them.
What a bloviating pack of wankers we have here.
I don't see a pic in this post either...
So here's one:
Dent in the pipe
2. Visor Fail!
3. Wrong side of the road FAIL! Unless of course this is the New Dragon with British driving Rules!
This crash had nothing to do with over-braking. See the trolley tracks? His front tire wedged in it at the moment he hit the brakes. Flipping over the bars of an S1000RR is flat out impossible without something external grabbing the tire. It has proportional braking linked to the rear plus race ABS.
Yeah, because it's impossible to disable the ABS, and the ABS was never an option on the s1000rr...
Sorry, but just because you can't do it doesn't make it wrong. If your control goes away, take your own advice and adjust your levers properly.
Shame on you for being a 20 year rider and never learning to truly master your machine. If you got a motorcycle to look cool, imagine what learning to ride it can do for you.
Have another look.
Nah, take another look. Yellow lines to the left and white on the right.
And now Killboy's added a KneeDown with... sparkles.
...means she's a user and not a loser.
I looked at that. He's hanging his head over the DY but the bike's on this side.
He's also sorta crossed up in his cornering technique, but I let that slide.
I must be the only KLr rider because a pinky, or just two fingers isn't going to do squat.
It's heavy and has "sluggish" braking. There is no way a pinky or two fingers is going to slow the pig down.
Ps... As mentioned above, the riders front tire gets wedged in the rail tracks above. There's no way a front brake could lockup that clearly, on a dime. If it were a front brake "over tug" the front would have skidded, washed out and rider high sides.
In the video, the rider is inbetween the tracks, an idiot pedestrian runs out, rider barely sees pedestrian, rider distracted, bike dips into track groove, bike stops on a dime, no skidding, no rubber smoke. Just abrupt stop. Wheel locked in the track rail. Pedestrian flees. Don't see him coming back. What country is this filmed in? I couldn't tell by the license plates.
What's shocking is how slowly all the bystanders move. Gawking and reluctant to do anything.....
She looks he to me.