I know Erik is doing fine. But it was indeed Erik who "eff'd" Erik at the MoCo. If you think what Harley-David looks stupid there is no helping you. They are doing fine and know there market better than just about any business on the planet. I would never own another feet forwad bike of any make but it doesn't mean they are bad. In fact feet forward bikes account for more than 70% of the road bike market. So spout your folly all you wish it won't harm a thing.