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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by SCQTT, Apr 16, 2009.
Whats the fail here?
Could carry more speed without nearly scrubbing hard parts if he got more than his butt off centerline.
Just so everyone can pile on me for being wrong, I'll take a shot.
See how the rider is actually leaning upright? He seems to have shifted his ass towards the inside, then is countering that lean by moving upright. That's a cool way to drag hard parts by forcing the bike over, but the bike and rider could handle the turn more quickly if he drove his left elbow down (and his riding position would follow). Then he would have less bike lean with more weight inside and able to carry more speed with less lean and less chance of levering the rear tire off the pavement.
I know I'm wrong...so go ahead guys...
You're not wrong. He's sitting upright with his head on centerline while the bike is out of lean angle.
He has more stickers on one side than the other....
Anyone know what the tank is from on the black one?
See the build thread here
Looks like he is saving room on the left for an ADV one.
Dunno, don't see any fail here?
Yeah, he couldn't ride, he just got lucky fer 5 years!
Doohan's also on track slicks, not 50/50 tires like the GS.
This guy on the GS would probably out ride lot of us posters here, excluding me of course
Out spell me maybe?
The difference between the two is that he is cornering on a bike that wont drag hard parts nearly so easily.
It also looks like he has already apexed and is fading to the outside of the turn with LOTS of turn left.
Doohan had lots of strange riding quirks that he made work. Certainly not saying that he was not skilled, just that his style really should not be used as an example of "the way it's done".
Cant really learn to ride by watching someone or reading books about, just doesn't work like that, most likely forget everything you read, the first corner you turn, and no matter how experienced you might be, on a strange road, the line is not allways the perfect one.
Just because it can be done that way, doesn't mean it should be nor that it is the best way.
Needs a car tire...
The seat on the black bike looks like a moccasin. Comfy :huh
I don't know how you can judge the guy on the GS from that pic (unless you actually know that turn). The first thing I do when setting up for a turn is slide my butt over. And then when exiting the turn my butt is the last thing to get back to the centerline. So there are typically two times in many turns when I would look like that guy. I can't tell from the pic how much turn is left or whether a right-hander is coming up. It seems conceivable to me that guy simply hasn't apexed, or possibly even he did and is coming out to set up for a right sweeper.
Looks brutal in the pic, but needs video to see the context. Pic angle probably not helping either.
Plus he left his sunroof open.