Killboy failure Dragon Fest

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by SCQTT, Apr 16, 2009.

  1. BUBB

    BUBB lynch not Zimmerman

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    Bubbwife reminds me of a trip we had up there in the last
    year or two. She she met a guy on a big Harley in her lane who passed
    her on her right. She said, "I looked at him like he was crazy and all he
    could do is smile."
  2. Terrytori

    Terrytori Namaste

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    Dude... If people had the ability to let things go, threads like this would run about a dozen posts.
  3. panorton

    panorton Charming as F**k

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    How unbelievably ARROGANT to have the attitude that the road was built strictly for the pleasure of people out on their bikes! Roads are built for commerce. Next time a commercial vehicle slows you down, think how all his taxes and fees paid for the bulk of that road to be built and maintained. Flame on!
  4. PFFOG

    PFFOG Richard Alps-aholic

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    Not arrogant, I have ridden it, but I know better roads, that have less traffic, so no need to join the circus. Just common sense, it a vehicle can't safely travel a road, bridge, tunnel regulation is in order, and done all the time.
  5. dbuzz

    dbuzz Citizen of the world

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    Can't see how it is arrogant ... these roads were likely laid out well before the advent of the size of rigs as we know them today. Maybe I'm talking though my arse as I haven't been on the road in question (plan to in the future) but judging by the pics there is no way it is suitable for big rigs... common sense I would have thought.

    In Oz these kinds of roads are signed "Not suitable for trucks, buses, caravans trailers" which is highlighted under a large warning sign about the gradient and/or winding nature of the road ... these are large signs and very hard not to see. This also applies to tunnels, bridges with low clearances etc ... the signs show advised detours. In Oz if these signs are white background with black writing they are thus regulatory and MUST be obeyed. If the background is yellow with black writing the sign is advisory only. My research leads me to understand that road signs of this sort are an internationally agreed standard.

    Is this road a short cut? Is this why the trucks attempt it? I can imagine there may be some occasional need for a truck to travel on this road for a local delivery but why are they not required to have leading and following escort vehicles?
  6. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    Yes. I remember reading somewhere that even if some truckers are fined a sizable sum by the THP for using that route, they still end up making a tidier profit by the time saved.
  7. Truckin_Thumper

    Truckin_Thumper low profile

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    this is about PFWBMW riders that cant ride worth a shit on the Dragon,
    actually how to and not to ride the Dragon Pictoral Edition.


    Since I need to practice what I preach, here is a pic of a 1200GSA
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    less yap and more snap!



















    :ken
  8. Cumminsman76

    Cumminsman76 befuddled

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    How many of those are T-T?:lol3:lol3
  9. Truckin_Thumper

    Truckin_Thumper low profile

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    I would not drag one of those sissy vans around....ever! Well, unless I was on a high $ .mil run.

    I'll take my "Man's Trailer" thank you very much

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  10. Thinc2

    Thinc2 Paciugo

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    Troll! :norton

    Actually, I feel bad for the trucks that end up on that road - it must really suck trying to get a truck through there.
  11. HammerMacGreed

    HammerMacGreed Long timer

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    Make them pay for the police and emergency vehicles, then fine the company and driver, then put points on the drivers record. In no way should those trucks be on that road, they endanger every motorist whether bike or cage. That's why they do have regulatory signs limiting weight, axles and/or length. I know because we get those asshats up on HWY9 when HWY17 is closed. Fucks up traffic for hours. I will give the professional truckers credit, it's usually some dipshit in a moving van or a 40' RV.:deal
  12. 42

    42 Bokononist

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    Yes. I remember reading somewhere that even if some truckers are fined a sizable sum by the THP for using that route, they still end up making a tidier profit by the time saved.


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    You never drove a truck. :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    And have no idea what you are talking about.
  13. SgtDuster

    SgtDuster Long timer

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    Maybe you can enlighten us then, our ears are wide open :ear

    Don't tell me that they take this road just for the fun of it.
  14. EastSideSM

    EastSideSM Isn't that dangerous?

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    Sorry for my own ignorance. I have edited my post accordingly but still maintain my point. You should be able to either trail brake as you have defined it here and also understand the dynamics of engine braking if you want to ride safely. Assuming you will always be able to enter every turn at the correct speed without any adjustments is not realistic and you will have to learn to make adjustments while cornering. In order to do so you will need to master both trail and engine braking.
  15. 42

    42 Bokononist

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    tidier profit by the time saved.

    :deal
  16. windmill

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    Taking a road like the dragon will double fuel consumption compared to more suitable routes, add a hefty fine to that and your working for free. Drivers are payed by mileage biased on legal tariff routes, there's no benefit to shaving or padding miles. Companies can't force a driver to violate hours of service rules, traffic laws, or use prohibited routes.

    Driver and company infractions are monitored by the DOT, any evidence of repeated intentional violations would get the driver or company suspended by the DOT. Operating on prohibited roads, without proper permits or authority is serious business, they don't fool around.

    One time I got lectured by a concerned citizen that a large double trailer semi like I was driving had no business on "his" road, I didn't bother to tell him that it was a load of portland cement to be used in the process of rebuilding "his" road. Funny how some folks pass judgment without even knowing where the truck is going, what it is carrying, or why it is on a particular road.
    Goods and materials don"t magically appear in towns on small back roads, they come in by truck.
  17. DireWolf

    DireWolf Knees in the Breeze

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    Those trucks simply need to learn trail braking by downshifting at the corners.
  18. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    I never claimed I did or do! The Dragon IS a shortcut though -- so why are truckers choosing to take that route rather than another road that adds quite a few hours to the trip? More time for hookers and blow?
  19. baloneyskin daddy

    baloneyskin daddy bikaholic

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    They also have to blip the throttle.:lol3
  20. 250senuf

    250senuf Long timer

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    But do they countersteer?? :evil