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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by SCQTT, Apr 16, 2009.
You have seen the movie Idiocracy, yes?
uh yes, unfortunately i did. it seems the ignorance of the future is already here; thus the making of that movie... it reminded me of that "people of walmart" website...
You aren't. I look at that picture and see the possible consequences of their actions. Not something I would want to live with. Other folks see the risk differently.
Sorry but it's not your kid and, as long as it's legal, it's none of your business. Just like it's nobody else's business if you take a kid riding ATGATT - which lots of folks would still disapprove of.
Yup. People do get to be stupid and teach kids stupid things. I see it all the time. At daycare, picking up my kid, I see parents whip into the parking lot way too fast. Other kids in the front seat, nobody has seatbelts on, smoking in the car...
But hey, I load my kid in the sidecar and put a helmet on her (and jacket, gloves..) and I'm the strange one...
Actually had the daycare admin ask me if it was legal...
Her feet touch and she has a helmet. It's legal. She was 6 at the time.
I do take the back roads because I haven't gone faster than 50mph with her in the rig yet. Building up to the speed. I want it to be fun, not frightening. She will tell me when she is ready to go faster.
But yeah, other people seem not to be concerned about their own kids, so why should I? I have my own kid to attend to.
I could see examples of that to agree with you.
BTW, I'm currently deployed and recently found out I'm required to take "motorcycle refresher training" before I'm allowed to ride again. :huh
You can make memories that last a lifetime, or you can let them watch "SpongeBob" all day. The SpongeBob kids will probably never get hurt.
I just got done with my 3 year refresher training on Friday. Just another hoop to jump through.
My first time on a motorcycle it was my next door neighbor and no one had anything, no shoes, no shirts, no helmets.....
Four years old.
Oddly people no only survived those days, they multiplied, exponentially.
COME ON SPRINGTIME!!!!!!
Does he really need his knee out if he's not even close to being able to have his knee down?
Now correct me if I'm wrong (which is frequently) but don't you have your knee down to feel the road/tarmac and to help you judge your lean angle?
In the simplest, most non-argumentative way I can, having more of your body weight to the inside of the corner will reduce the amount of lean angle required to steer around a given corner. Therefore while his knee is stuck way out, notice how his upper body and head are moving though the corner. Effectively reducing the required lean angle in the corner. A reduced lean angle means not only do you have a larger contact patch, but also allows to be harder on the throttle when exiting the corner.
He is doing it right. It's the guys who just stick their knee out to scrape it, but whose head and upper body are to the outside of the corner who do it wrong.
Good point.. When you truly shift your butt over and have a good full cheek off the seat and torso over the mirror, your shoulders open to the curve, hips square with bike or open a little to curve, leading with elbow, toes up on the peg, the knee just needs a place to be and sticks out all most without thought. It would be somewhat awkward to me to try and push the knee back in. You can do it by pushing your knee forward, which rotates your hip against the curve and tends to put your torso back towards the body of the bike. You then have to make more effort to rotate torso against how the hips are. It does tend to move weight a bit more forward however if you are needing that. Still it is more work for me to do all those twists, so the knee just sticks out almost naturally from this square or open alignment of hips and shoulder/torso and butt off the seat. Try practicing it on a chair and see where you knee goes.
Okay, that makes sense. I appreciate the non-argumentative lesson. Sometimes I ask questions and I sound like a judgmental moron. Usually it's just because I don't know something.
Thanks, dude... I just fell out of my chair!!!
cute.... perhaps the chair wasn't moving fast enough... LOL
Good conversation you generated.
I'll try rolling faster next time.
anyway, I'm not afraid to ask questions. There's lots and lots and lots of stuff I don't know... I'll ask if I don't know something.
If you are married, of course you don't know things, The questions you ask just proves it. The answers you get don't help you know more. Later, by the second or third time you ask the question, you learn not to ask that one anymore. I think the longer I am married the less I know.
About that pic, I don't see the guy posing at all. He has good form, open to the curve, good torso position, good vision position, has moved and lowered the CoG to the inside so bike is more upright, he is also actively position himself on the bike so any needed response might be quicker. He and the bike are better positioned for many things that are and could occur in that curve. I wished I looked that good!!!