Klim Adventure Ralley Jacket vs. Klim Badlands Pro Jacket

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by Nanuq, May 10, 2013.

  1. CaptRick

    CaptRick On dry land 4 now.....

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    I got the Badlands, more suited for the riding I do than the Adventure.
    The Badlands vents well and it is amazingly dry in the rain. It is not light weight
    putting it on reminds be of my Dry Suit diving days.
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  2. Flyinguy

    Flyinguy Been here awhile

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    Wish mine was dry in the rain. I have worn it twice in the rain and got wet both times . Love it otherwise. Vents great and fits good.
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  3. CaptRick

    CaptRick On dry land 4 now.....

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    Call Klim and they will walk you thru the way to clean the jacket and dry it to resell the material against rain! Their customer service is excellent
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  4. mrt10x

    mrt10x Dumba$s Jarhead

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    more info needed... wet through the material? Wet down the collar? (pretty common) Wet through the vents?
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  5. Bicycle Phil

    Bicycle Phil Been here awhile

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    YetiGS,
    What do you do regarding hydration and the Badlands??

    Have you come up with a better way to use a bladder in the jacket?
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  6. AdventurePoser

    AdventurePoser Long timer

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    The Adventure suit was basically built by KLIM for Dakar racers-you can carry pretty much everything you might need in its pockets. There are other design implementations that for the basic guy who rides a bike are probably overkill.

    For me, the Badlands Pro is great. I bought mine one size up. I like the loose fit and it flows more air. And, I have more room for layers...

    Good luck on your choice.

    Steve
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  7. AdventurePoser

    AdventurePoser Long timer

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    I sling my Camelbak over my shoulders and thread the hose underneath a strap. Works perfectly for me! Zero need to have a built in space for a reservoir....

    YMMV of course.
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  8. Y E T I

    Y E T I Unpossible

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    Pretty much this. Although I have actually worn it under the jacket in really hot weather as the shoulder straps cut off air flow.
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  9. Flyinguy

    Flyinguy Been here awhile

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    Wet from the shoulder to the elbow on both sides in the front and a spot left of center about halfway down the front. Did get some collar leakage on a third ride, but that was in a thunderstorm. I didn't expect to stay dry in that. I am going to call Klim and see what they say cause I still like the jacket.
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  10. AdventurePoser

    AdventurePoser Long timer

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    Badlands or Adventure? On the Badlands did you cinch the neck drawstring close to your neck? Just wondering...
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  11. FuTAnT

    FuTAnT KTM 990ADV

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    Bid of a grave dig, but has anyone tried the Mil Spec bladders in the Badlands?

    http://shop.camelbak.com/Military-Tactical/accessories/mil-spec-antidote/l/711

    I've got one of these for my normal CamelBak, but it's a few years old and they've changed the design a bit. Much more robust and hardy than the standard bladders. The internal baffle is awesome and it's been amazing how much pressure and abuse my current one has taken.

    Something like the 70 Oz bladder (2.0 litre) looks like it might fit nicely, perhaps turn it backwards to the bottom connection isn't pressing in towards your back. They also spread the volume out nicely and lay flat very well.
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  12. steveWFL

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    spoke with someone that has both. Summer weather wear is a priority, I went with the badlands for better ventilation (i'm in FL)
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  13. SierraJeep

    SierraJeep It's toast

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    FWIW... I just got home last night from the 2013 KTM Rally in Steamboat Springs, Colorado. I have a Version 1 Adventure Rally suit and I've worn it for three seasons; I do not own, nor have I tried, the Bandlands suit.

    My last trip took me from Northern California, across the Nevada desert (north of I-80), up into and across the Sawtooth Ranges in Idaho, through Wyoming (complete with high cross winds, pouring rain, and lightning storms), down into Colorado along the great divide (more rain and mud), over the Grand Mesa (hail storms and way more rain), down through Utah, to the north rim of the Grand Canyon, back across southern Nevada, through Death Valley, and up 395 before going around Tahoe and back home. In this trip I went from 106 degrees to 34 degrees and all I had on under my suit was a thin pair of Exoffico shorts and a UnderArmor tee shirt (alternating between a short sleeve and long sleeve). I wear a neck brace and never once did I get wet inside (and I left the vents open) and never once did I get cold. Death Valley was very hot when I had to stop for pictures! :eek1

    I am an average joe but I very much appreciated having the pockets for carrying items I needed (or didn't need - like the zip-off collar in the dry weather) without having to unpack all my gear in the Giant Loop bag. Having easy access to the hydration system is big plus for when you hit a gas station and buy some water to top it off.

    The suit is very heavy - but not too noticeable when wearing it. My two riding partners were not wearing anything rain-proof (other than jackets)and I actually got tired of listening to them complain about being wet and cold. :lol3

    All I can say is that when my Rally suit wears out I will go buy another one in a heartbeat.
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  14. crunchiespg

    crunchiespg Long timer

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    What is the fit like on the adventure v badlands? I tried a large badlands and it fit good but was too tight in the shoulders for me. The x large was much Better in the shoulders.

    So if I was to get the adventure, which my store doesn't stock, does it fit the same as the badlands or is it bigger fitting as it's designed for over a pressure suit.
    Thanks
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  15. scbob

    scbob Been here awhile

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    Hi guys, I just got the Overland pants - seem real nice, and hopefully will be waterproof as advertised.
    I'll be looking for a jacket soon, so really appreciate this discussion.
    One thought though - one person earlier mentioned he got the jacket on the large size for comfort; is there a risk of the jacket riding up, and even coming up over your shoulders in a slide ?
    I saw one person with a strap at the back of their jacket that went under the crotch and then attached at the front to prevent this.
    what do you guys think, please ?
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  16. Wy'east

    Wy'east Dust in the wind...

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    Badlands Pro owner for a year now. Don't own the AdvRally.
    I'm living in Israel and I swear I'm the only one here with one. Here are some rambling observations...

    I use the NacPack for the water and some extras (the tool pack is ok if you don't pack it full of tools - for that I use the Scramble Pack). Now I basically have a "modular" AdvRally minus a few things - cost wise, I'm still short a few bucks. $900+$100+$50=$1050 spent as opposed to the $1300 for the AdvRally

    A full bladder in the jacket is not really useful, that's why I suspect the back is flat so you can wear a pack as opposed to the AdvRally. It just makes you feel like a camel and just pulls on the back - annoying as hell and I will never put it back in.

    I ride 5-6 days a week. I always wear the Badlands Pro - among other gear. The summers here in the central region are horrible. 85-90F and 80-90% humidity. Disgusting. At first it was a bit much the first few days but after I became acclimated it was actually comfortable. That venting is the tops, period. Thankfully the weather started cooling down this last week and I can partially closed down the jacket. If you buy one wear it, it won't do any good hanging in your closet.

    I think I'm borderline XL as my L is just about too small to put on a fleece pullover - or I've grown during the summer. Just check your fitting with your cold weather undergarment before you buy.

    Has a nice "tailored" fit to it and makes you look good. The kidney belt helps keep everything in-place just don't wrap yourself too tight. It's adjustable don't forget, it's only attached by velcro and moved up or down a bit.

    Easy peasy to clean. I wand wash mine and toss it into the drier until its just dry. No need to bake it. I've done this 4x this year, probably should have done it more as it does get a little stiff with all the dust and dirt mixed with the sweat and salt pouring out of you body. It still looks new. Cool.

    The down-sides and nit-picks that I see are...
    • The collar is not neck-brace compatible per-say like the AdvRally is as I'm starting to consider a Leatt - don't know how that will play out maybe just wear it over the jacket?
    • Snaps might be better than the velcro closures on the storm flap - or not.
    • Zippers on the inside mesh pockets look a bit weak though I haven broken one yet.
    • Neck collar ends up folding down and getting a nice big dirt/sweat stain on it. The only way around this is to wear a Buff or some type "necking" which you should anyway - sunburns, etc...

    Haven't had much use for the GoreTex yet but I'm sure hoping it will perform when the time comes.

    I would buy it again. The only other jacket I would consider to replace it would be the AdvRally2 if it ever comes out and that's because of the collar and integrated pack and pouches that are starting to grow on me but who knows...:slurp
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