Klim Badlands Pro Jacket & Pants - Gore-Tex Adv Shell (photos)

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  1. RevZilla

    RevZilla Best on Two Wheels!

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    I agree that for any inclement weather, wet or just plain cold, inside the cuff is the way to go. There are a couple "double-cuff" styles out there, but they have not been very popular in the US. REV'IT! had one that had limited availability in the US called the Genius H2O glove and Dainese has a glove called the Jerico that also has a double cuff and is a current product offering from Dainese.
    As for what might work best with the Badlands, I might suggest the Long gauntlet for cold weather and a short cuff, vented glove for warm weather, such as the Klim Adventure Glove.
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  2. jfdirtybiker

    jfdirtybiker Roads are to explore

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    Ya the BD is a bit bugged on the internal pocket. BUT I also have the Rally2 PRO and now the KLIM BD pro and both are setup up to use the back rear pocket for a water bladder with the hose routed up over the shoulder and down in front. I use this method for all my riding as at 5'10" the filled bladder always rests on the passenger behind me so it doesn't pull on my shoulders until I stand which is often. I had a neighbor sew the D rings for $39 and they don't penetrate any waterproof required material. It works great for me.

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  3. BoxerDoc

    BoxerDoc Still a nOOb

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    I've made my peace with the internal water bladder pocket. But it's been a journey to get there. I had a BMW Rallye II jacket and suffered with that system. The pits! The Badlands Pro is definitely a step in the right direction. Maybe not the ultimate destination.

    I use the same brand water bladder that Klim sells. The Hydrapak. Except I use the 2L size and do not fill it to the bulging state leaving it a little loose and sloshy. The first time I filled it to bulging full, it felt like a tumor on my back and it pulled the neck of the jacket into my windpipe. Not comfortable. I drained some water out straight away, and it was tolerable. Now I just don't fill it full and I hardly notice it's there.

    The Hydrapak clips really nicely into the jacket. From there it's not too hard to undo the velcro holding the top of the back armor pocket, pull the armor forward, undo the velcro for the water bladder pocket and pull the tab off of the top of the bladder to fill it. Filling it doesn't involve removing the bladder and hose from the jacket which is key. Takes me maybe a minute to get it open, fill and closer up. I use a pitcher to fill with water at home and buy bottled water on the road.

    The Hydrapak hose routes around the inside of the jacket and exits through the right napoleon pocket. It's in a really handy spot to grab a drink, then push back down out of the way to stow.
  4. V-Stormer

    V-Stormer Bush Basher

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    The water bladder pocket is a feature in the Badlands I'm unlikey to make much use of. I like using a 3 liter volume and I don't like the idea of having the water there all the time when I'm walking around off the bike. I'll probably just stick to using my hydration backpack that can be removed quickly or even stored somewhere on the bike if I'm not needing it. Or worn for a hike or around camp or to keep me hydrated while working on clearing obstructions on the trail without having to wear the jacket. There is also room for a few other small items in the pack, so it's handy for that too.

    The Adventure jacket is a better design for this feature with a pocket on the outside that you can easily remove the bladder from, but I'm not spending $500 to get that feature. :huh

    (before you say it, yes, I know there are other differences!)
  5. BaronVonDarrin

    BaronVonDarrin Been here awhile

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    couple of questions about the badlands and maybe some suggestions

    1. I know if I want to REALLY use a neck brace I 'need' the adventure jacket but really I can not see me spending what is an entire paycheck for me on a jacket just to get some tougher junk on the arms and a neckbrace fit. Would it really kill the leatts functionality to wear it on the outside of the jacket? (durban with alpinstars neck system is looking better everyday sometimes...)
    2. is the d3o armor in these things the thicker sort or the thinner sort I hear complaints about? And should I take it out of the legs and get real knee brace protection? Is the d3o int he badlands gonna protect me when I fall on rocks and bang my elbows on something? (I have matter attracting particles in my elbows I frickin swear)
    3. do you know any LADIES who wear this. I want to get my S.O. something this badass eventually but I know Klim doesn't make a chick-fit for this jacket (really burns me that no one seems to do so for just about anything). Would getting the smaller one be OK for a ladies body you think?
    4. is there any significant cooling difference between this and the adventure? That would be a game changer for my budget complaints. (I. hate. being. hot.)
  6. Y E T I

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    1. Don't know. I'd check with Leatt. I've worn mine over my jacket before but haven't crash-tested its effectiveness. :dunno

    2. Don't know. I wasn't aware there are two different thicknesses. The knee armor seems a bit small but I'm good with it. I suppose if I was going to be riding in rocky singletrack, I'd wear my knee braces. Then again, if I was riding in rocky singletrack, I wouldn't be wearing my Badlands. Same with the elbows. When I ride gnarly off road, I wear a pressure suit. I got the Badlands for doing my day-to-day road riding and for "Adventure" rides, i.e riding the GS to get to dirt and riding fireroads and sandy trails. The armor in the Badlands definitely provides less coverage than my Motoport Kevlar Mesh gear.

    3. Don't know. (Sensing a theme here? :lol3) I know Soph9 has either a Badlands or Lattitude, I just can't remember which. Fwiw, she loves it.

    4. This I do know. :D I've had an Adventure, now I have a Badlands and I, too, hate being hot. (Yeti's like being cool. :D) The Badlands does vent better than the Adventure. If Motoport Kevlar Mesh is a 10, the Badlands is an 8 and the Adventure a 6.5 or 7.
  7. BaronVonDarrin

    BaronVonDarrin Been here awhile

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    Did you get it in black or grey? My hate of being hot is in conflict with my love of black. Ha.

    I wonder, is there some sort of UV reflecting clear coating that I can coat all my black stuff in?
  8. Y E T I

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    Badlands = grey

    Adventure = Black
  9. RevZilla

    RevZilla Best on Two Wheels!

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    Hey BVD,
    There is a technology out there that some riding gear is coated with called TFL Cool. It reflects about 30% of the sun's energy and helps keep Black motorcycle gear cool. One product on the market that is equipped with this technology is the REV'IT! Everest jacket and pants. I believe it's washed into the fabric before assembly and not something you could spray on afterwards. Here is a link to the TFL Cool technology. It would be great to see this technology in more products on the market. I really hate wearing anything but black on my bike too!

    Cheers,
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  11. one.nine

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    Anyone wanna buy my badlands pro jacket? size XL. Black. email me. mikkjr@gmail.com
    its in like new condition.
  12. sideup

    sideup Been here awhile

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    I have been reading all the reviews of the Motoport Kevlar Mesh but also like the look of the Badlands and also born in Idaho a sentimental favorite.
    The Motoport seems to offer better protection for commuting and touring. Having both what is your review of both.
  13. Y E T I

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    For this weekend (WARPED VIII) I would NOT have wanted the Motoport gear.

    Yes, I believe the Motoport has more protection, BUT it's not all about the armor. In addition to the padding, there is abrassion resistance. I think they are equal or at least, on par with each other.


    Over the past four days, I rode in pouring rain, snow and warm temperatures. The Badlands suit handled it all with zero complaints or issues for me. It kept me dry and warm, was comfortable and, when things warmed up, it vented well and kept me happy. I don't think there is a more versatile suit.
  14. sideup

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    Thanks for the feedback on the two. I have about 12 k miles on my Olympic MotoX and knock on wood never crash tested. I am leaning toward the Badland just due to the waterproof shell and no zipping liners and such. The motox is very nice on those hot summer days the way the zip down panels work but there is also no front armor.
  15. tofire409

    tofire409 Geared up and ready.

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    So for those that have black... is it really hotter than any other colour? I have a Joe Rocket Ballistic in red and grey that I will be replacing.

    Other than the accent light grey it would appear that the dark grey wouldn't be much better...

    I (and I'm sure others) would like your opinions.
  16. QCRider

    QCRider Adventurer

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    tofire409,

    I have been using my black jacket Badlands every day for about 5 or 6 months now in Costa Rica and I don't feel like it's that bad temperature wise, especially while riding with the air vents opened. My previous jacket was a grey BMW Boulder, and I can't say that it was cooler than the black Klim because of the light color, but rather because it's a lighter material. My 0.02. I love the Badlands jacket and pants so far! Not sure if you have paid a visit to Dual Sport Plus yet, but they do carry the Klim gear (dualsportplus.com).

    NB: Hope everything is fine back home (TO) with Sandy around the corner.
  17. tofire409

    tofire409 Geared up and ready.

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    Thanks!

    I ended up getting the badlands in black (which goes nicely with the traverse pants) in early June. Love the jacket, didn't find it terribly hot this past summer. I thoroughly tested it in the Ontario rain this week :wink:
  18. Mr_Gone

    Mr_Gone The Lejund!

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    I've been slogging through all the threads mentioning the Klim Badlands jacket, and saw that you bought one. I am very seriously considering buying one of these jackets, and was wondering if you would be willing to share what you think about the jacket.

    How's it holding up? Comfort?

    Also, I've heard that it's pretty heavy — hence the kidney belt — how heavy is it?

    Any thoughts / impressions / suggestions / rants would be appreciated before I drop $900 on a jacket.
  19. Y E T I

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    Fwiw, I've had mine about a year now, maybe more? :scratch

    It's holding up very well. I've had to wash it a couple of times (mud) and it's been well-used off road and on. When clean, it still looks brand new. No fraying of anything, all the velcro still sticks like, well, velcro.

    Comfort: The only thing I found uncomfortable at first was the collar. It was kind of stiff and annoying. Now that it's broken in (which took about two weeks) it's very, very comfortable.

    I don't think it's more heavy than any other well-made jacket. I certainly don't notice it weighing much when I'm wearing it. All well-made jackets seem heavy if you just pick them up. The question is whether they feel heavy when you're wearing it. Compared to my old BMW RP2 or my Aerostitch, when I'm wearing it the Badlands feels lighter.

    I don't think the kidney belt is for weight, it's for comfort and to keep the back armor in place. Could be wrong on that though. However, I will say the kidney belt is one of my favourite features as it keeps the jacket in place and aligned so the jacket seems to move with you.

    My only gripe is that the waterproof zippers make it tough to work the venting while riding. I can undo the sleeve vents (or zip them up) while riding. Usually, I can un-zip the pit zips while riding too. But no way in hell can I zip the pit zips up while riding and sometimes can't even un-zip them.

    Considering that's my only gripe with the jacket, I'd say Klim nailed it.

    Oh, one last thing. If I was building the ultimate jacket, I would take the Badlands and add the Adventure jacket's inner harness and waterbladder pocket. Although the harness is a bit much for daily commuting, it is easily removed and unecessary when you're not using the bladder. But I really preferred the Adventure set up to wearing a Camelbak or Kreiga when riding with the Badlands as they sort of hinder the airflow in the jacket. You listening there Klim? :ear
  20. Mr_Gone

    Mr_Gone The Lejund!

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    Thank you, sir! I appreciate your write-up on the jacket. Exactly what I was looking for.

    I do believe a Badlands is in my immediate future.