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Discussion in 'Vendors' started by BoochZilla, Feb 20, 2011.
Me too. Me too!!!
I've had mine for about 3 months now and love it. I came from having a Rallye 3 for a year and then a Latitude and Latitude Misano. None of them compare to the durability of the Badlands fabric. It's tough as nails but i find it about as heavy as my R3 jacket, but never put them on a scale so I could be wrong. The thumb loops on the sleeve are awesome in the cold and the Velcro tabs to hold open the collar are great in warm weather. I'm not too crazy about the chest pads, but I take them out when riding around town. It definitely breathes better than the Latitude, but I'm pretty sure it'll be out away for summer he in AZ. I bought mine used for $650 from an inmate who claimed to have worn it once and after having used it for the past 3 months, I'm certain I would pay full price for it if I had to. Realistically, it could probably be passed down to your kids because its so damn tough.
Sorry I missed the post, not sure what happened
Bought mine in the beginning of June this year.
I don't know if I can add much to what has already been said, but here's my 2 cents...
I really like this jacket! The weight disappears when you put it on, very well balanced. You will find that it's the armour that adds the weight, the kidney belt helps keep everything in place.
The water proof guarantee is fantastic. Warm with the right layers, not super hot in the summer. It's my only jacket all year long.
The only thing that I should email Klim about is this: the collar could use a second velcro tab on the outside and get rid of the two inside tabs that are a bit scratchy till they wear in or you get used to it. A way to integrate a water pack would be great. But it's not horrible with a Greigerrig RIG 500.
I would buy this jacket again in a heartbeat, no question!!
It does. The pocket is behind the back armor and the tube will route up under the right arm and through the small hose hole in the top right front pocket.
I'll echo all the feedback with regards to the collar. It has taken a while to get used to it. I found that if not paying attention when I put the jacket on, the collar can fold under and cause some discomfort. Easy enough to deal with. The kidney belt is great. I wear one anyway so with the built in belt I don't worry about leaving it behind somewhere. It also helps to keep the jacket fitting nice and snug if I want it to be. The cuffs....what can I say but a little annoying. I'll be removing them.
The space for a hydration pack was an afterthought and it really isn't convenient to re-fill a bladder but it is nonetheless there if you need it.
Badlands Pro Jacket Hydration system
Speak more of this discount please... Where would you have to order and is it still in effect? Does it have to do with having donated to his Dakar effort (which I did ).
I have the Motoport Kevalar Airmesh suit. Love the protection. But once it starts getting chilly/wet, I don't like messing with liners. So I have been scoping out the Badlands Pro jacket... I can't believe a jacket that costs this much doesn't come with at least a basic thermal liner. By the time I might add a KLIM liner for warmth, the cost of it and the jacket are almost as much as my entire Motorport suit, even after having that suit custom fitted and numerous custom changes made to it. So ANY break on price would be welcome!!
Picked up a new Badlands today...they seem to have addressed all the negative issues in the earlier posts...collar/arm adjusters/main entry Velcro...collar very comfortable...after only 50 miles on the jacket I really like it...85 degrees here and jacket flows a lot of air/all vents open...thought I would remove chest protectors but now think I will leave in...flows lots of air without collar open and even more with it open...wrist condoms are ok...this was only 50 miles...will do about 100 miles tomorrow and report back..80 to 90 degrees tomorrow and humid...will see how it feels.
Cool beans Graham... can you post a pic or two of the collar and arms? like to see how it looks compared to mine
Will do as soon as I figure out how to post pictures
this is one free method:
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Update...liked the jacket so much-I picked up the pants...sizing-fits close to true size..I am 5' 11" and 200 lb...take a 44 suit jacket/32 sleeve and the Klim Large is perfect(per Klim chart-187-210lb/66"-76"tall/42-45chest/30-32sleeve)...Pants-suit pants 36"-37"waist and 30-31" inseam and the Klim 38 reg works for me(room for layering and Christmas dinner)..per Klim chart-size 38 fits 37"-43" waist and 33" inseam-realistically probably a 37-39(the waist range of fitment is a little optimistic) and adding 2" or so to leg length for sitting on bike is about right-so 33" leg is perfect for me....gotta get some more miles in to give decent review..another update later..hope sizing info helps.
How are people finding this stuff in the cold?
Mine is not warm, the trousers are very draughty to the point were I can't use them in the cold, even with a pair of jeans on underneath they leave me with a cold leg.
May have to dig out my old cheap Richa gear.
it is a technical shell...it is not designed for cold....layer layer layer...
Yes Layer maaan layer! I've used my BP Jacket all year long from the Blue Ridge to Newfoundland Rain, Sleet and Snow.
I love my Klim BP jacket/pants. However, for the price, it seems a bit lame that they do not come with some kind of inner layer. Much cheaper suits come with them. I totally understand the layer layer layer thing and that is what I do. But that means I have to BUY extra layers, which effectively drives up the cost of the suit even more than its already expensive price.
As for the legs, I find that with my dirt boots on, the pants are snug enough that I don't get much airflow up the legs. I wear LDComfort riding tights usually and am comfortable with those down to the mid 40s. Lower than that and I wear a pair of Klim Inferno pants. Those are good down to the low 30s. After that, I stop riding.
I wear the long sleeve turtle neck from LDComfort under the jacket, hot or cold. I've worn it in 100 F plus temps and with the vents open, I was comfortable. The shirt really helps. I also wear it in the cold. I might put a cotton shirt over it, but more often if it gets that cold I will put a Klim Inversion jacket on under the main jacket. That is comfy down into the 40s. After that, electric vest
Keep in mind though that I got my Inferno pants and Inversion jacket on sale and they still set me back another $225 or so beyond the cost of the BP pants/jacket! Of course, the main reason I got the BP suit was for the Gore-tex and armor. I HATE dealing with rain suits/liners.
Just like goretex hiking jackets, most people use their own fleece or wool, etc layers underneath. I have a closet full of layers (fleece, LDC, W&S). I wouldn't want to buy a shell that came with another fleece liner. Yes, they're expensive, especially if you pay retail. If you knew how much they sell them to MIL/LE and industry professionals, it would probably make you sick. I'd buy used or through Promotive if you qualify.
Klim Europe has a store sell-out action on the BP series, so i ordered myself a BP jacket in the Netherlands, it is a 200Euro cheaper, so now i am waiting for the delivery half august
It has arrived!
It's too pretty -- needs to see some dirt . Congrats, PhaseShifter! I think this is the perfect opportunity for some before and after photos .
Have fun and ride safely,
The pants has also arrived! Needed it urgently because of the Dutch "Wetlands Pro" weather.