KLIM Badlands Pro

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  1. JustRon

    JustRon ex-broadwayron

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    For those who say the pants are cut small... have you measured your waist? Mine is 32", so I bought size 32. I could easily wear a 30, because I need to crank the velcro waistband adjusters pretty tight. And, they are pretty baggy.
    I'm going to keep them, because I wanted to be able to wear something pretty thick underneath for winter. But, if these were my warm weather pants, I'd need to go a size smaller than my actual waist.
    The kneepads seem a tad low, but when I'm on the bike, they are in the right spot.
    These are by far the best pants I've ever owned.
  2. enduro Dan

    enduro Dan Sticks and Stones™..

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    I'm actually a 33" right now.
    The 32's fit almost perfect, a hair tight in the waist,but lots of room in the ass and legs.
    I would say the are an "athletic" cut.
    The 34 would have been way too big.

    The waistband leaves a lot to be desired though.
  3. V-Stormer

    V-Stormer Bush Basher

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    I'm doubting you'll get much of a chance to see if the replacement jacket leaks in the Baja! :jkam

    Hope you have a great trip, but will be waiting anxiously to see what the report on the replacement jacket is when you return to the monsoons here in Victoria. I'm starting to have my doubts about Klim and this jacket with your report not being the first I heard about the Badlands leaking. I had high hopes for this jacket and was willing to fork out the dineros, but now I'm not so sure.

    Klim's response seems to have been somewhat decent in your experience. But having you tape off the zippers to test the waterproofness makes me wonder what their response would have been if the zippers were leaking. Other reports on that point seem to indicate, "too bad, so sad" is pretty much Klim's response. I'm not going to spend that much money on something that doesn't work. I've been down that road too many times already with mid-priced gear.
  4. V-Stormer

    V-Stormer Bush Basher

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    No better place to get it than right from the horses mouth . . . I contacted Klim about the chance of zippers leaking and the warranty They said that the outside cargo pockets are not guaranteed to be waterproof and in unsusual circumstances, might get water in the pocket due to a bottom seam that cannot be sealed. But it won't leak through the jacket. ANY leakage from the outside to the inside of the jacket including zippers would be warranteed.

    So based on the above, and a very good real-world test about a guy sliding over cheese-grater pavement in a contstruction zone in Russia with almost zero damage to the suit or himself (Klim Adventure suit), I'm going to go for the Badlands which seems similar in quality and construction, but would suit my dual-sport riding better.
    :freaky
  5. cchoc

    cchoc Outdoor Photographer

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    I'm around 6' and 200# and wear a 46" jacket and 36" pant. The Badlands Pro jacket in an XL fits me fine. I also have a pair of Dakkar pants in a 36 and they are almost too big so I'm hoping a Badlands Pro pant in a 36 will fit correctly.
  6. GB

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    When you wear the Badlands pants do you attach them to the jacket? use suspenders? or wear them unattached?
  7. enduro Dan

    enduro Dan Sticks and Stones™..

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    Attached.
  8. mrt10x

    mrt10x Dumba$s Jarhead

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    suspenders
  9. GB

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    Which ones?
    Do the pants have attachment points for them? :ear

    thanks :thumb
  10. enduro Dan

    enduro Dan Sticks and Stones™..

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    I'd answer that but I attach them so :ksteve

    Even though I could tell you but you ignored me.
  11. GB

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    I know there's a zipper attachment to the jacket, but are there loops or hooks to attach suspenders? I don't think alligator clips can hold the pants on if you're sliding on the ground..
  12. enduro Dan

    enduro Dan Sticks and Stones™..

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    There are two places(loops) in the front of the pants,just beside the fly zipper,where you could probably attach suspenders.
    I think you could use the side adjusting tabs to attach the rear of the suspenders.

    Why not just zip them together?
  13. GB

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    The zipper is small and at the back of the pants, so it makes removing the jacket kinda tricky, no?
  14. mrt10x

    mrt10x Dumba$s Jarhead

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    I use the KLIM suspenders.. there are loops specifically for suspenders on the front and the back for them. No metal clips involved.
  15. enduro Dan

    enduro Dan Sticks and Stones™..

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    Not as easy as the BMW zippers but you get used to it.
    One trick I learned was to zipper before cinching the kidney belt.
    Unzipping I didn't have a problem with.
  16. enduro Dan

    enduro Dan Sticks and Stones™..

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    :lol3

    I thought the back loop was for hanging the pants up.
  17. Fibzzz

    Fibzzz Resident Cynic

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    I rarely attach the jacket, and highly recommend the suspenders if you're not zipped together. Especially when you're off the bike, the weight of the pants makes them fall down pretty quickly. I bought the "deluxe" suspenders from Klim. Nice metal adjusters, and removable high-tension clips for use with my other riding pants. As someone already noted, the clips aren't needed with the Badlands because the leather straps go through the built-in loops on the pants.
  18. levain

    levain STILL Jim Williams

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    is the kidney belt supportive enough that it might replace a standard one? I have lower back issues and am always so much more comfortable wearing one. Too much of a pita for the most part though. If it was integral, I'd use it always.

    Thanks
  19. enduro Dan

    enduro Dan Sticks and Stones™..

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    Yes.
    It's a good quality one with the side adjustments built-in
  20. V-Stormer

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    I suppose it depends on how bad a lower back problem is or what the nature of it is. I tried the kidney belt of an Adventure jacket in the shop yesterday when I was sizing out a Badlands Jacket (they didn't have a Badlands in my size in stock). It felt much like the belt on my compression suit, which does provide fairly good support for me. I expect a kidney/lower-back support belt designed only for that purpose would probably provide better support. However, if you're not wearing one because of the inconvenience, then the jacket would probably be better than nothing. I find the one on my compression suit does help and it's one of the reasons I'm buying the Badlands.

    The only thing I find with my compression suit support belt is that the large front velcro area bunches up when sitting on the bike after a while. Still, it seems to work though. After a couple of minutes, I hardly notice it on, but definitely notice the difference when I take it off. So I expect it is applying enough support to make a difference for me.