KLIM Badlands Pro

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by mrt10x, Feb 20, 2011.

  1. Scrooge

    Scrooge n00b

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    I had previously read about cracked knee pads in the cold, but I didn't think it would be an issue in the jacket due to less flex needed in those particular areas. I keep my gear in the house or a heated area at work when commuting, so breaking the pads through normal use shouldn't really be an issue for me. I agree that body heat should help, but I noticed the other night in the 30's that the pads were considerably stiffer when I got home than when I put the jacket on and that was after one hour. I don't expect them to be exactly the same at 30 degrees as they were at 75, but I do expect them to provide the same level of protection in the event of a fall. I don't think that's an unreasonable expectation. If they crack due to flex when cold, I wonder if it would shatter on impact from brittleness in the same conditions.

    I think I'll contact Klim to see if they have any data about d30 performance at lower temperatures. The last thing I want to do is wonder if something I bought primarily for protection only works in a fairly limited temperature range.
  2. Mr_Gone

    Mr_Gone Innocent culprit

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    I haven't found anything specific regarding how d3O armor protects when it's cold, but I believe it was originally designed for snowboarding and skiing applications. Seems like they would have considered that these sports occur during cold weather.

    Then again, maybe I'm assuming too much.
  3. V-Stormer

    V-Stormer Bush Basher

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    I'm thinking in a fall, the main thing is abrasion protection of things like knees, elbows, shoulders where the skin is thin and joints are protruding. Some absorbtion of impact is there too, but that's secondary even for foam padding. Even if the stuff did crack when cold on first impact, it's usually in a tight fitting pocket that would hold it in place for the few seconds of a slide and it would probably still provide reasonable protection.

    The main take-away for me here is being extra careful (or not to mess with) removing the pads from the pockets when they're really cold to avoid a problem. I have bent and removed pads when they are quite a bit more stiff than room temp, but have never seen them crack or been concerned they would. But I bend them slow and don't force them. I'm confident enough in the material that it will work when I need it most.
  4. Mr_Gone

    Mr_Gone Innocent culprit

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    I just pulled the trigger on buying a Badlands Pro jacket. I ordered it from Mike at Tellico Moto, a fellow advrider inmate here. Mike was great! The price was fantastic!!! Mike didn't have the jacket in stock in my size and color, so he'll be ordering it from Klim and having it sent directly to me. I should have it by next weekend <fingers crossed>.

    I will try to post some feedback on the jacket here, after I've ridden in it for a few hundred miles.

    Thanks to everyone who posted on this thread. All the advice, recommendations, suggestions, and experience was invaluable.
  5. zenjen

    zenjen Go Outside

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    I noticed you're from Mt. Home. My 3x great grandfather, Jacob Wolf, built the Wolf House in Norfork. - That's a very nice area to test ride your new jacket.
  6. Mr_Gone

    Mr_Gone Innocent culprit

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    I ride down that direction every Sunday. Push Mountain Road is very near to where I live, and I try to ride Push Mountain every week at least once.
  7. enduro Dan

    enduro Dan Sticks and Stones™..

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    One modification I did to my coat was to put a button on the lower arm strap.
    The Velcro didn't want to hold so I put a snap on each arm.

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  8. Mr_Gone

    Mr_Gone Innocent culprit

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    That's a brilliant idea. I will do the same thing if I find that the Velcro does't hold on my jacket. Thanks for the idea.
  9. vibenation

    vibenation Out of Rat Race

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    Question:

    Has anyone yet washed their Badlands suit?

    My pants are stone cold filthy from a season of dirt riding and I already have a bottle of Nikiwax products Tech Wash and TX.Direct spray on that I have previously used to clean and re-up the waterproofness of my work coat that kicked butt. Anyone used these products on a Badlands set yet?

    Seems like the right thing to do and the inside of the coat and pants STINKS because I ride mostly in hot weather where I really should be wearing full motocross pads, pounding through rock gardens on my DRZ400 :)

    Would love to clean them but whatcha think, either product an issue?
  10. enduro Dan

    enduro Dan Sticks and Stones™..

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    That is what I plan on using when I do wash mine
    Let me know how it turns out for you. :deal
  11. cchoc

    cchoc Outdoor Photographer

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    I've washed my Badlands jacket and pants (and a lot of other Gore-Tex stuff over the years) with Tech Wash and have never had a problem.
  12. a2ronm

    a2ronm Ti-6Al-4V

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    Check out post #24: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=776081&page=2

    After 8 months, some 15,000 miles of daily all weather riding I've yet to machine wash my suit, however I have showered with both the jacket and pants to degrunge the insides. Dripped dried afterwards.,

    DWR is still working fine.
  13. V-Stormer

    V-Stormer Bush Basher

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    Well, it's been a while since I posted, and unfortunately I haven't had a chance to ride a full day in heavy weather, but I've had some pretty serious commutes since my last post with heavy rain, wind and road wash. Not a drop got in.

    So I think the leaking problems some have had might be anomolies, even though they've had more than one jacket that leaked. I can't imagine that in some of the weather I've been in that if there was even a chance it could leak, it would have.

    Badlands gets my vote as a good weather proof suit . . . I guess this summer will be the deciding factor on an all-round adventure suit good for warm weather as well. :freaky
  14. Mav

    Mav Something witty...

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    Anyone got any experience they want to share on the armour in the trousers/pants?

    Have been thinking about getting some Badland trousers to go with the jacket... but I took a pretty hard fall a couple weeks ago and came out remarkably unscathed apart from a decent bruise on the inside of me knee that pretty much follows the line of the armour, giving me an idea how much it might've hurt if I'd not hard such good armour on!

    My current trousers are BMW Rally Pro's. Based on the jacket, I'm wondering if the Badlands trousers would've done such a good job of taking care of me...

    Thoughts?
  15. telejojo

    telejojo Been here awhile

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    I have a Toumaster trans. 2 jacket and I have rode in rain,cold and heat and I cannot believe a jacket cost 900.00 I don't know what it can do more unless a BJ.I'm sure it's a good jacket but I just can't see that much money for a jacket.:huh
  16. cardoctor1

    cardoctor1 Been here awhile

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    bj and a reach around
  17. Mav

    Mav Something witty...

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    I better call my supplier 'cos I never got those with my jacket!
  18. burmbuster

    burmbuster Long timer

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    Depends on what you call "warm weather". Badlands is quite a steamer if you get above 75 degrees.
  19. Nacho911

    Nacho911 Been here awhile

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    Remember when you clean gortex, place in hot hot dryer to dry, this resets the membrane.
  20. Xeraux

    Xeraux Archvillain

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    How many Klim threads are you going to post this revelation in?