Klim Traverse Pants issue

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  1. jjmead1

    jjmead1 now THAT"S a bike!

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    So first and foremost I am not ranting, just seeking out information.

    I am now on my second pair of Traverse pants. The first I warrantied because they leaked water all over my crotch. Their customer service was top notch.
    On to the second pair....I rode from Boulder to Golden in this afternoon's rain, and was soaked in the same area.

    Does anybody else have these pants and experience this?

    I do follow the instructions regarding wash and care and recharge.

    I am fairly certain they will take excellent care of me but if this is a known issue I'd probably wan to go another route on pants. I like the idea of guaranteed to keep me dry.....its the being wet part that throws me off.
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  2. Assfault

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    I have a pair that I've worn for a little over a year now.
    Washed with my other gear, not really taking special procedures.
    I was in a pretty good rain for about an hour and a half today also.
    Only thing that leaked was the lower boot velcro area that has a huge hole from being melted on my exhaust.
    My privates were, and always have been dry.
    Sorry this might not solve your issues, but this is my story.
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  3. jjmead1

    jjmead1 now THAT"S a bike!

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    Nope this is exactly the feedback I wanted. Thanks. What bike are you on? Not that it should matter. Everything else on my lower body was dry.
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  4. Patj551

    Patj551 Motorcycle & Empowerment Coach

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    I had the same problem with MSR pants that were supposed to be water proof. The crotch area was soaking wet and cold. Here's a thread I started RE rain pants for Colorado. Interestingly, I was thinking of buying Klim Travers...

    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=901548
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  5. Mark R.

    Mark R. Been here awhile

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    I have Klim Overland pants, which are very similar to the ones you have. I just got them, and my issue is the knee pads are too low, covering the bottom of my knees and shins.

    Since I wore them once, which is when I discovered this issue, I cannot return them, so I probably have to find an alteration shop to have something done. I am not real happy with Klim.
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  6. Assfault

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    My primary bike riding with those pants is the KTM 690.
    The reason for the melted hole is I lost a heat shield and the lower pant must brush against it thus the melting. I have found I need to close the zippers all the way up into the small pocket,, although your problem would seem to indicate a leakage not on the zipper but perhaps where the stitching is. In all my years of riding, I've found all the water tends to concentrate right in the crotch area, almost being funneled to that location. As such, that location needs to be extremely resistant to H2O imo.
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  7. jjmead1

    jjmead1 now THAT"S a bike!

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    Thinking the same thing, so I looked over the pants and the flap is not going to keep water out. They needed a watertight zipper in the crotch and failed to put one there. I am going to call them tomorrow and see how it goes. I am confident they will take care of the issue in some way.
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  8. jjmead1

    jjmead1 now THAT"S a bike!

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    Got off the phone with KLIM and once again have to send the pants in. I am sure they will send me another pair, but not sure the issue is ever going to be fixed without a re design. The fly is not a water proof zipper as is found on the vent ports. The inner flap does not keep water from penetrating the pant, maybe it is too short.

    I asked for them to be altered and a waterproof zipper added. But because they are made overseas no such thing can happen. I wish they would at least have prototype ability in house to do such work. But I guess that's the unfortunate nature of our manufacturing process in todays age.
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  9. hardwaregrrl

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    Was just reading about mixing and matching jackets and pants. What jacket were you wearing? If not designed with the Traverse pants in mind, it may be funneling water in the wrong spot. I ride an old airhead and have the traverse pant and jacket, I have a tank bag that's pretty high and a small windscreen. i'm never wet and it's been a record setting summer here in Georgia when it comes to rain.
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  10. jonz

    jonz Miles are my mantra

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    I have the Klim Traverse pant I wear with a Motoport jacket. I wore the pants on a 2 month trip to South America and rode through rain quite a bit. No crotch leaks. I rode a KTM 950SE with a Lynx fairing. In rain, I could raise the small windscreen which helped deflect some of the rain and that may have helped.
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  11. HAYVIATOR

    HAYVIATOR Don't be me dude.

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    Ditto. Not sure how they designed the pads to ride so low, 2-3 inches in my case
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  12. Lovin' it Strom

    Lovin' it Strom High functioning sociopath

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    You need to figure out where the water is coming in from. If it is your jacket or the fit funneling it in, no repairs will help. If it's just water pooling on your seat, the pants should stop that or you should be able to ask klim to add a layer of gore tex in the crotch to help out in that week area. Maybe throwing your leg over is stressing the stitch points there too much. I'm surprised more pants don't have a gusseted crotch.

    Roll up a paper towel and pack that along your waist band and maybe a second behind the zipper point. Park in a car wash on the center stand and sit in your normal riding position while a buddy sprays you from about 10 feet away for a couple minutes and check which paper towels are wet and where.

    Let us know how it goes.
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  13. atokad

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    Can't speak for the Klim, but I spent about an hour in heavy rain today too! :clap

    Frogg Toggs - Dry Ducks - $20 at Sports Authority, I stayed totally dry! I do have a few rips in the lower left leg where they caught on my shifter and I patched my left forearm where I burned them on my exhaust, so it may be time for a new set. But after 5 years it may be time. However, they are a PITA to put the pants on and the hood flaps around a bit if I don't get it tucked into the back of the jacket when I put it on.
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  14. _Magoo_

    _Magoo_ master of disaster....

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    the only solution I can think of is to ride nekkid.....:deal :lol3
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  15. Hondo

    Hondo What if it's a Samsquamch?

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    Treat the new pants with a good rain repellent
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  16. LoneRhino

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    I know this is probably obvious, but has anyone thought about how fast that motorcycle is? and what riding it at rush hour is like? Was there more water on the inside or out? How fast were you going? Any semi-s around? These are important factors... There is also the serious, always needs to be considered, prototype material, duct tape. That stuff is good, but don't get it on the skin... Plumbers goop is also able to fix any leak, but again, don't seal off any part of the anatomy which should not be sealed off... I'm sorry, but I am a problem solver and... needless to say, nobody mentioned these factors.
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  17. Patj551

    Patj551 Motorcycle & Empowerment Coach

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    I have Overland pants. The knee pad sleeve is adjustable via Velcro strips. I released the two upper Velcro strips and fastened the lower Velcro strips. That effectively moves the knee pad pocket up a couple inches. I'm 5'7" with 31" inseam. In the raised position the knee pads sit perfectly.

    I am very pleased that the overland gear has kept me dry!
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  18. jjmead1

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    Uh this is the least helpful post actually.

    "Guaranteed to keep you dry". None of that claim comes with an asterisk. It means what it says.I know this because Klim tends to back up their claims with great service. I got wet riding in rain, you know the kind that falls from the sky and cars and trucks kick up all over the place. The kind of rain one would buy pants to keep them dry while riding a motor bike. As for speed....let's try the speed limit as it was rush hour, raining, and I have no death wish. Just a desire to stay dry. The bike is a 650 thumper. A top speed of maybe 90 downhill with a tailwind on dry pavement.
    I am not duct taping a $300 pair of pants to stay dry. I chose the logical route of calling Klim and asking why my SECOND pair of pants leaks in the same area. Not pissing and moaning but rather asking a fair question and getting a warranty set up. This is after all why they have a customer service department and a great reputation.

    Traverse pants with an Overland Jacket. I have found the coverage of the Overland to be far superior than the Traverse, plus the armor is included. Often when you sit the zipper can form a cup in your crotch. Add rain and you can get a puddle. Add vibration of a thumper engine and that puddle is going to seep into the weakest area, and that is the flap and zipper. This zipper would be better if it was the waterproof type used on my jacket. I mentioned this to Klim. Unfortunately, they stated they cannot add a zipper for me. I offered to pay and it became apparent they do not manufacture much stateside. Not sure how they prototype, but I was not going to pester the customer service rep. I just asked and offered my .02


    They make great gear. I like it for much more than " looking the part". Aside from this leak issue I have found their gear to fit me very well and be durable to my dirt naps. I trust it will suit me better than a pair of jeans should I ever have to lay it down on pavement. I commute 40 miles one way every day for work. I prefer to ride my bike. Maybe when snow flies I will send the pants back, I am sure Klim will stand by the product, they have in the past. Until then I am not jumping in my cage and I am continuing to ride the pants everyday. Staying mostly dry.
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