KLR on the KVR june 2010 & more

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by Lycan1, Jul 1, 2010.

  1. Ian Robinson

    Ian Robinson SlowRobo

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    Great RR with stunning photos / countryside. what a ride... We don't see too much country like that over here..

    Good to hear the KLR performed well...
  2. Lycan1

    Lycan1 Grizzly herder

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    Thanks Ian,

    It's funny how we take for granted the scenery that surrounds us, and lust for what someone else has. I would love to get across to Australia one year, and it may happen sooner than I was originally planning.
  3. flossandfly

    flossandfly Been here awhile

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    This looks almost as fun as your moab trip and it is nearby. If you want to revisit it and want company let me know.
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    motoged Been here awhile

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  5. Lycan1

    Lycan1 Grizzly herder

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    This I very much doubt. In all reality, the KVR will very soon be off limits for motorized vehicles due to pressure from special interest groups. Then local dirt bikers and "gnarly adventurers" will either stay off it or become outlaws. It is a shame really, since it will be seen by precious few without them. I am glad I saw it when I did, truly a testament to engineering and determination.

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    And Seven years later;
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    http://www.nald.ca/library/learning/okanagan/history/2railway.pdf
  6. motoged

    motoged Been here awhile

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    Lycan,
    I have been riding different sections of the KVR since 1978 and have watched it gain popularity by all sorts of folks: walkers, bicyclists, horse folks, quadders, drunks in pick-ups ,and good folks like you and me. I rode the Myra Canyon trestles before AND after the fires (respectfully when encountering others) and have watched ranchers/farmers/ aboriginals lay claim to "right of way".

    Each group has its own sense of entitlement to the railbed.....just have to say I will ride it when I want, and will find a way around the human obstacles best I can with a wave, a smile, and perhaps a polite conversation....

    It sure opens up a lot of nice terrain... :clap
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  7. Lycan1

    Lycan1 Grizzly herder

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    Here is a GPX file for the KVR.

    If you have thought about doing this ride best do it soon. With all the pressure from selfish special interest groups you may have very little time to.

    Attached Files:

  8. Bullspit

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    Loved the report. Thanks!

    This ride is on a list of rides I would like to do now thanks to this report. Someday I'll retire and have the time to do it!
  9. jfman

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    Is the KVR easier to ride east to west or west to east or no difference?
  10. Lycan1

    Lycan1 Grizzly herder

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    There is nothing that would make it more difficult in either direction in my opinion. I have done some sections in both direction now without problems. The biggest thing now is the continued push by special interest groups to close it to motorized traffic. Just be prepared to make detours where needed.
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    Thanks

    So the narrow section where it was washed out going uphill eastbound and downhill westbound?
  12. Lycan1

    Lycan1 Grizzly herder

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    There is a Quad bridge over that washout now. Wide enough for most bikes with bags on.
  13. jfman

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    Sweet!

    Looks like its fully fauxdventure bike accessible then :D
  14. Lycan1

    Lycan1 Grizzly herder

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    After a hard lesson with PhotoFucket and "third party hosting" I will endeavor to (in order) add the pictures that were all lost by entrusting them to a greedy corporation. Never Again!

    They wiil have the matching captions from the original posts and I will add the commentary from the original posts where they were.

    DAY 1:

    We departed Calgary and burned pavement south on Hwy 22 and east on Hwy 3 to Castlegar. We set Up Camp at; http://www.castlegarrvpark.com/, just south of the town on Hwy 3 (up the hill on the left about 4 km. from the lights at Columbia Avenue.) The owner was good about directions to the trailhead at the north end of town.
    To find it go north on Columbia Avenue from the junction of hwy. 3 (there is a Chevron gas station on the Corner). At the bridge take the ramp on the right that goes underneath to Arrow Lakes drive to Keenlyside dam. At the corner where the road turns right to the dam, stay left onto the gravel. The trail starts behind a large steel building ahead on the left. The rails run for about a few hundred yards past the entrance gate before disappearing for the duration.


    From Post 1:
    Castlegar, B.C. day 1.JPG
    Castlegar from the viewpoint south of town on Hwy #3.

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    CastlegarRVpark and Campground south on Hwy#3 Just behind the office across the marsh.

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    Night shot of the camp spot at Castlegar

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    Playing with the camera remote after a long day of pavement pounding.

  15. Lycan1

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    DAY 2:
    It was easy running on the gravel roadbed that is wide enough for a Smart car or a GS adventure. There are well-maintained trestles with spectacular views of Lower Arrow Lake along the first stretch. There is even a picnic table at one wide spot with lots of room to park off the trail. The first tunnel is short and dry with good surface.

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    The Trailhead on the north east end of Castlegar near the Keenlyside Dam.

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    Honest Officer the sign said so...
    The start near Keenlyside Dam, Castlegar.JPG Just inside the Gate near Castlegar, the rails still there.


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    Tunnel number one west of Castlegar.

    To be Continued 4 pictures at a time...
  16. Lycan1

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    Day2 continued..

    Tunnel 2.JPG
    Pavel is having a great time as am I.

    The second tunnel is about ½ a km long, curves along its length, making it very dark. It is also very wet with water pouring down inside from the ceiling and a slippery cobblestone like surface. Great fun In other words. You pass under the highway south of the tunnel and through another tunnel.


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    Leaving the first tunnel.



    The longest tunnel on the KVR.JPG
    The entrance to Bulldog Tunnel.


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    The light at the end of the longest tunnel along the KVR.

    UPDATE: Last year there was a significant cave in in the Bulldog tunnel. One brave group lead by "Tokenboy" here on the forum video taped the passage. I'll add it when I can.

    The rebuild continues....
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    Day 2 Continued;



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    Above Arrow Lake on the KVR, beautiful in the morning.

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    One of many trestles along Arrow lake

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    Another gratuitous Trestle shot

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    Excellent vantage point overlooking Lower Arrow Lake from the Kettle Vally Railway, (Columbia and Western at this point actually)

    Pictorial rebuild continues 4 pictures at a time.

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  18. Lycan1

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    Day 2 Continued in Pictures;

    Pieces of rail history on the KVR.JPG
    Little reminders of the rail line along the way, I left it where it was taking the photo and the memory only.

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    New guy action shot

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    The longest tunnel on the KVR system. Dark even with high beams, very wet, water pouring down all the way through and slippery and rough.

    The long dark wet Tunnel.JPG
    Stopped for a picture before forging ahead.

    Pictorial rebuild continues 4 pictures at a time.

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  19. Lycan1

    Lycan1 Grizzly herder

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    Day 2 continues in Pictures;

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    The trail is easy until you get to a huge washout. Now that Smart Car or GS Adventure might be a bad Idea.:lol3


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    There is a bypass built down to the left, made for bicycles. The KLR made it down and back up without too much trouble, being the lighter and pannier free of the bikes. The GS made it down to the midway point onto a little wooden bridge with somewhat more stress and difficulty. There was no way that it was making it up the 1-foot wide dirt path with the Tourtech panniers on it. The path up was steep crossed with tree roots and rocks. It had guard rails made from saplings and would have maybe just slowed the GS on its 500-foot plunge, should it fall over. I held the front brake and stepped on the rear brake while sitting on the flimsy railing while my friend took off the panniers.

    GS a bit fat for the washout bypass, some disassembly required.JPG
    The GS had far more aggressive knobbies but still kept spinning out on the trail going up. The KLR had just walked up on the stock Dunlops. With the panniers sitting down on the bridge and me pushing using the racks we finally got the BMW to the top. I had been in such a hurry to go help my buddy with the GS that I had left all my gear on. Now I got to take the jacket and helmet off and clean out the dirt from all the tire spinning.

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    At the center of the "V" shaped bypass looking north. It was steeper than it looked.


    Pictorial rebuild continues 4 pictures at a time.

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  20. Lycan1

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    Day 2 Continues in Pictures;

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    Looking back down from the south side. Hands were shaking from the exertion.



    After a short rest and some self-congratulations we set off hoping that was the last washout. It was, and the trail was in good shape down past Farron andPaulson.

    North of Farron, KVR.JPG
    There was a great variety of terrain from quiet little ponds, to valleys, seen from narrow perches high above. Don't fall down here, or stop if you don't like heights.

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    The trail crosses a road with gates (not locked) not long before it comes to a parking lot above Christina Lake.

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    We turned right out of the parking lot and ran down into town to hook up with Highway 3 west up to Grande Forks.

    Pictorial rebuild continues 4 pictures at a time.

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