Klr Sidecar

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by hayduke357, Jan 25, 2007.

  1. dochstader

    dochstader Adventurer

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    I have a Dauntless (Ural) platform setup that I have been using as primary transportation since August '05, on my '05 KLR.
    With a fair degree of hack experience, I feel qualified to comment on this package.
    The KLR has the motor (with a 13-T countershaft sprocket) to work very well, but the (relatively) long-travel suspension works against it in the handling department - while you can set it up in a "staionary manner", it all goes out the window when you start driving it, and suspension travel unravels the proper orientation of the package, and screws up the handling. I have cranked up the suspension as far as possible, with longer spacers in the forks, # 5 on the shock, and a shim on the car shock, but the real cure would be different suspension ($$$$$)! My previous units were older street bike, with old-fashioned-short-suspension, and they were a lot easier to set up suitably.

    The KLR frame does not lend itself to hooking up a car easily, but Dauntless really handled that spectacularly, by ceating an almost-parallel lower double frame, which has been absolutely issue-free for me, and does not impact the KLR in any noticeable way, as a hack unit, or when riding solo!

    As indicated, Dauntless pulled of a winner with its design of the KLR attachment, and, being powder-coated for durability, offering a range of rear brake setups, and excellant lighting, for the price, I consider it one of the best deals I have ever had in over 50 years of motorcycling!

    Now, if the weather would just warm up, I could shed a layer of gear, and really enjoy riding!

    El Mur.
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  2. RedMenace

    RedMenace Adventure Sidecar

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    My KLR rig with Dauntless mounts works OK

    http://adventuresidecar.com/KLRrides/KLR sidecar ride.htm

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    My rig with homebuilt mounts works ok too, but the Dauntless mounts are much better and MUCH easier to install. Fabricating mounts for the KLR waas incredibly fussy work!
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  3. RedMenace

    RedMenace Adventure Sidecar

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    I dont mind the stock suspension on my KLR rigs-works just fine if you use your weight and work with it. However, Dauntless does make a nice set of links for the KLR. I have ridden this setup and it works very well

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  4. RedMenace

    RedMenace Adventure Sidecar

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    Raising links on the rear don't cost much and really help. They stiffen the rear suspension, steepen the fork angle to reduce the steering effort a little and give your rear wheel a little more clearance beneath the fender.I've done this on all my KLR rigs.

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    You can get a stiffer spring for the rear shock. Probably not as good as a better shock, but much cheaper. Dauntless has these but i expect you can get them from the usual after market suppliers for KLR, perhaps at a better price. I haven't tried this mod but Jay swears by it.
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  5. Torquer

    Torquer Hey, watch this.....

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    Does anybody make a 2 wheel drive Hack for the KLR?
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  6. DirtDabber

    DirtDabber cultural illiterate

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    The KLR has a hard enough time making one wheel go.....:evil
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  7. Torquer

    Torquer Hey, watch this.....

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    A stock one yes. I am contemplating the Versys Parrallel twin motor swap, with a hack option to take trips with my wife. I'm not so worried about doing the work, I know there are other alternatives. I would like to be the guy with the truely unique awesome KLR. There is a guy on the KLR650 website that did this engine swap in a first gen KLR. I would like to be the first to do it in a second Gen with a hack. Power would be up 20 ponies over a Ural, im not sure about the torque specs and how they compare, but it would be a fun project! I am sure it would be comparable to a ural 2wd if I could get it to work.

    I wonder if I can order the ural side car and rear suspension and modify it to fit the KLR....hmmm.:freaky
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  8. Torquer

    Torquer Hey, watch this.....

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    Sounds to me like getting the KLR to handle ok with the hack is the biggest issue, putting a hack on it seems straightforward.
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  9. ricmachado

    ricmachado Been here awhile

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    the hack KLR is my only experience with sidecars, so I may be biase on my comment, but how much handling one need?

    I have the hack for about 6 months / 8k miles and other than very short chain life, I think it handles OK.

    I did a 1600 mile trip to FL, rode the NC/TN mountains and also just recently to GA.

    Not sure how much easier would be doing all this opn a ural, but the KLR was good enough for the job, and even breaking the chain many times, the easy repai made side road repairs fast.

    cheap bike, cheap maintenance,

    (stock suspension on KLR, rider 240lbs, passanger 80lbs, 80.s era Velorex with unknown suspension)
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  10. DirtDabber

    DirtDabber cultural illiterate

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    The long travel and soft suspension is a handful, I mean hoot.:lol3
    Mine is a work in process and the other two rigs I have had handled much better. The KLR is much more fun on the dirt roads and I play around on the local curvy roads seeing how far I can fly the chair. There are a couple turns that I have to drag the left peg to keep the chair in the air.....

    It is fun but I would not trust it in a panic situation. My BMW rig with ABS has gone into full lockdown mode several times without a hitch.
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  11. GreatWhiteNorth

    GreatWhiteNorth Long timer

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    I bought this KLR650 rig this last February from DMC, and have put over 1000 miles on it already (might not sound like much, but I'm riding a 'Wing too). Great rig for backcountry roads and trails. Regarding handling, the long travel suspension does contribute to it being a little squirmy at times, but I find it very manageable. The DMC Enduro sidecar is very well engineered - nice piece of kit. The disc brake setup on the sidecar works well, and it stops reasonably straight even in a panic stop. Very practical setup, and a lot of fun too.

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  12. windmill

    windmill Long timer

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    KLR rigs are often stigmatized like Urals as being limited in speed, power and handling, or dismissed as a beginner or cheap rig. Despite that many folks love them and ride the shit out of them. I don't care what the punters say, I like them.

    Less is more. :thumb
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  13. schmidtle

    schmidtle Smitty

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  14. cwadej

    cwadej Keeper of the truth

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  15. Henry James

    Henry James Looking for Adventure

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  16. Ivan Rider

    Ivan Rider Been here awhile

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    I think you're talking about me. I kept the Sputnik Cargo hack and sold the KLR to a guy in San Francisco.

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  17. bpw

    bpw Been here awhile

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    Yep I am, been quite a while now but still have fond memories of that bike.

    Was bought by a friend of mine after I put a bunch of miles on it and it finally died when it skipped timing and trashed the top end, actually shattered valve shims the piston hit the valves so hard. But its parts live on in another KLR and I still have one of your side boxes bolted into the bed of my truck for tools.

    Hope the R65 is still going well, was a lovely little bike and I sometimes miss it, especially the 400 mile tank range!

    Hope your doing well,
    Ben
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  18. nk14zp

    nk14zp Been here awhile

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    I don't have a hack on mine yet but they are a ton of fun. I love mine.
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  19. Ivan Rider

    Ivan Rider Been here awhile

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    KLR's make good sidecar tugs.

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  20. hdgypsyman

    hdgypsyman Part Time Adventurer

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    I know that this is an old thread that has been resurrected, but the original question is still a valid one.
    A KLR650/sidecar rig is a great way to get into riding sidecars. With the right weight sidecar (mine is a Sputnik) they are a light and fairly easy to maneuver rig. They do have a limit as far as cruising speed . Mine runs nicely at 60 to 65 mph with one tooth less (14 tooth) on the front sprocket. Strong headwinds have me dropping a gear and running 50 to 55 mph in 4th.
    This summer I just installed a 692 big bore kit from "Eagle Mike" along with a valve job, water pump seals, and stronger clutch springs. I'm just breaking it in so I can't tell you if the engine mods make a big difference or not.
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