KLR650 Only Thread......

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by willys, Nov 19, 2011.

  1. Murphy Slaw

    Murphy Slaw Long timer

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    Yep.

    One thing I've noticed since saving up for / researching KLR's is the prices are all over the map.

    There appears to be no method to the madness........
  2. sandalscout

    sandalscout blah blah blah

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    Yeah, when looking at other bikes, they tend to cluster around a price and change only slightly for worse or better condition bikes, as expected. I've seen KLRs in fairly similar shape (but over a large range in years) go for $300 to $4800. Got a great deal on mine, so I'm happy though!
  3. pchGS

    pchGS Mark

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    Check with the PO to see what has been done to the bike, that'll give you a quick understanding of where you might want to start. Another suggestion: Make sure the connections around the carb are tight. IE air filter boot, intake boot, screws on top of the carb. And as others say check the carb settings/jets esp if those were dorked with... :D

    GL!

  4. stringsmovie

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    Great idea! Tracked down the original owner and it was as simple as swapping out the exhaust. I'd reverted to the original more quiet exhaust but he had the bike set up for his aftermarket one.

    Thanks everybody!
  5. Yokomo

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    Well that would do it. Super rich.
  6. kckeeny

    kckeeny Poor Bastard

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    Report on my first two months with a 08KLR:

    It doesn't have enough power... I think it's slower than my 91 EX500.
    It corners for shit.
    It eats oil.
    It is a PITA to work on (plastics are hard to get off, some have to come off just to get the seat off etc..)
    Rides really smooth but the front dives like a hawk when I grab the front brake.
    My ass hurts.
    It can carry a lot of shit with out me needing to wear a backpack.
    3500 miles, 3 oil changes, stock pipe and jets re installed and a fresh front tire into her so far.
  7. SkiBumBrian

    SkiBumBrian DualSport Crazy !!

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    Sounds about right KC.... If you want performance from a KLR you have to pay for it. Start with the suspension, Ricor or Cogent, get your sag set right, dump about 1.5K in the motor/exhaust and it becomes a different bike. Other than that yes it is heavy, slow, and can't stop for ****.
  8. Asatrur

    Asatrur Newbie KLR adv rider

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    I have a 00 and my comments are inline below, but remember what bought, not a KTM or BMW and you also did not pay the price for one.
  9. RevBill

    RevBill Irreverent Reverend

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    .. in the end .. it does a bunch of everything and acts like McGyver with a Swiss Army Knife .. that's probably why the USMC uses it as the base for their scout bike ..
  10. Tsotsie

    Tsotsie Semi-reformed Tsotsi

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    On the other hand, my 08;

    1. It has enough power for what I want it to do and more! Cruise all day at 80mph.
    2. At corners below 80mph I keep up or pass 90% of other bikes on the road- with decent tires
    3. It does not eat oil - 1/8" in a 3200 mile 1 week ride last month with days 685 and 770 miles in there- without an oil change and countless hours at 5K+ rpm.
    4. Front does dive some, but then with proper oil, a 320 mm disc - can lift the rear wheel in a stoppie
    5. I can ride 15 hours days on successive days - endlessly - more comfortable than my Beemer (with a Bill Meyer) - thanks to Russell!
    6. 41k+ miles, 4X to Mexico, 3X to VA and back to TX, 1X to FL and NC and back to TX , WY, MT, BC and Alberta Canada and all round TX, OK and AR.
    7. The only 1 issue on a ride was a main fuse blow for no aparant reason, 20K ago.

    It has been adapted and modifed somewhat to suit me. It is a great tool for doing what I want it to do. And that is all that is needed. Some pompous, fancy bikers often stick their noses in the air, until several days into a long ride when that pesky KLR is still there and rearing to go each day, gets under their skin. The old gray beard smiles under the helmet. If it does not fit you the way you want it, fix it.
  11. jgormley

    jgormley Been here awhile

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    You can stiffen the rebound on the rear shock.. and I think it will cut out some of the front fork dive
    at the same time...
  12. byways

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    After spending a ton of money fixing a terrible oil-consumption issue, while also responding to the long list of recalls (turn signals falling off, wiring harness replacement blah blah ...) and a bunch of other defects (rubber parts that rotted away within about 90 days, stupid doohickey thingee that Kawi refuses to deal with ...), and having the main jet downsized one size to help with lousy fuel mileage ... I have a fair bike, I think. Except for the odometer, which died at about 10k.

    I only need now to bypass that awful, inherently defective set of safety switches that left me stranded on South Pass, Wyoming, one summer day.
  13. 685

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    Wah, wah, wah!:fyyff (gotta keep the ADV attitude.)

    Do the 685 or 688 (Wyman Winn's version on the other (never to be named lest I be banned here, too) forum will solve the oil burning problem. Get an exhaust that flows and do the .22 mod, airbox crap, and ein better (read: Uni) air filter. Unless you do a KLX needle, nothing you do to the jetting will make any difference, but you can turn out the mixture screw to 1 3/4 turns will help. Wymanizing 688 or the Schnitz 685 give you a slight tho noticeable bump in HP & Torque. and a 3 oz lighter slug, so the engine runs a lot smoother.

    My 08 uses no oil, no matter how I ride it!

    I dumped the stock exhaust, mine is an XCR. Little loud, but flows well.

    Can't do shit about the plastics--spend a half a grand (plus) and get a IMS 10 (!) gallon tank that eliminates the shrouds and still protects the radiator. (too spendy for my tastes, I'd have to give up Gin.)

    Get rid of the p.0.s Kawasaki seat. Ma Kawasaki was a sadomasochist! (Probably, Mitt would say she's a socialist, I dunno.) Check the ( it who shall be un-named forum) vendors area for a seat cover/foam replacement that you can install for a total of about $160. Or spend the big money and get a Sargents seat (which is totally unimpressive to look at, but is heaven for your butt and back!)

    You got the early 08, mine the turn signals didn't break off, That's a recall issue, so it never expires outa warranty. The rest of the shitty rubber bits, deal with it. Desmo parts will sell you a good set of fairing rubber wellnut bits. The clutch boot, and the covers on the wiring harness are just a cost of buying a cheap bike.

    We didn't get a Uly, a Bimmer, or a Triumph (or Aprilla, etc.) We paid a LOT less. For an old, mediocre design. Fortunately, the aftermarket for KLR's is massive. What's bad can be fixed if you can throw money at it.

    But if ya can't live with it, sell it and shell out a whole buttload of money for something modern and competent.:freaky
  14. kckeeny

    kckeeny Poor Bastard

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    Wow. Great feedback.:norton

    I wasn't as much complaining as I was stating my first impressions.

    The oil eating is really bothering me. I Think I have the bed lot of rings. Kawai is covering the replacement rings and labor?

    The other things are just impressions though. I'm getting quicker at the plastics and have seen some nice youtubes of carb work where it is simply rotated rather than removed for servicing everything but float level (and even that may be possible whilst it's still in the bike)

    I removed the sheeps skin seat pad after a 4 hr ride in the rain and after installing the stock pipe and jets. I threw out my lower back 2 weeks ago and the pain has settled finally to just my cheeks- and thus may be the majority of my bottom comfort rather than the whole seat. I suppose everyone seat fits a seat differently. :D

    I knew what I was getting with the KLR and was happy to get it for $3200 with the farkles and 8000 on the clock + it was perfectly clean and shinny and stored in an immaculate garage by the PO.

    The bike may actually be as fast as the EX500 was (this aint no liter bike- I've had those and am not comparing the KLR to them). I find myself thinking that I'm not accelerating but when I look at the speedo I find myself already at cruising speed with 2-3 more gears to pull. I think that the ride is so quiet and smooth that it just doesn't FEEL as fast as it really is. That being said, today I passed a semi on a 2lane 55mph road... I've never felt so hopeless in the passing position on a bike before.

    I'm getting used to having a (not sexy, MacG, utility bike) KLR. It's just a big change for me. 125 miles a day commute that allows me to find gravel roads and bust the rear end loose on my wander home with my lunch etc safely in a hard case.
  15. 685

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    You can get relief from oil consumption pretty reasonably. Those overbore kits I mentioned earlier can do it--and the price tag from Wyman is about $450 and includes the piston, rings, clips, radiused head gasket, base gasket and a correctly (with attention to detail) bored cylinder. (You must send Wyman a boreable cylinder in exchange.) The results are moderately awesome--a good, seat of the pants feel of more power and torque. And the piston is about 81 grams (3 oz.) lighter than the stock one. Less weight means it runs smoother and may rev faster, too. If you can do your own work, $450 buys the upgrade.

    My bike will go 1700 to 1800 miles (my normal oil change interval) with no add oil needed.

    Ma Kawasaki may or may not fix your ring problem. There wasn't an official recall of the 08's, and Kaw. is just as likely to reject your claim (if you're out of warranty) as not. I guess my feeling was that they had their shot at it and screwed it up. Do you really want to give them another shot?--their parts replacers are not the best or highest trained--and they won't treat the job like the bike is their own. BTW, Ma Kaw seems to think that using a quart of oil in 1000 miles is perfectly normal.

    My 08 started green/silver/black. It's now all black with a dark smoke tinted Zero Gravity Double Bubble windscreen & road tires. It gets 'nice bike' from the cagers in the grocery store parking lot. Maybe it's a face only a mother could love, but I think that it's a nice looking ride.
  16. FixerDave

    FixerDave KLR650 - XR200R

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    The KLR is the wrong bike to tour around the country or continent. Too small, too rattly, too cheap, and the seat sucks big time. But, it can do it. With a few aftermarket parts, it can do it not too bad. The KLR is the wrong bike to race canyon roads. Not enough power, lousy brakes, poor aerodynamics, and the seat sucks. Yet, people do it - even scrape the pegs, or so I've been told. The KLR is a lousy commuter bike. Fairing is too small, not enough power to run heated gear, and the seat sucks. Yet, people do it. The KLR is a lousy bike to go 2-up camping with. Too small, not enough power, not enough room for gear, and the seat sucks. Yet, people do it, and my wife would agree that it's a great way to "get acquainted" with the ladies. The KLR makes a lousy dirtbike. It's way too big and heavy, the suspension is weak, it HAS a fixed fairing fer crying out loud. Oh yeah, and the seat sucks though the rider should be standing most of the time it the tight stuff anyway. But, people do it - and go places with it not fit for man or beast. Bottom line, wherever you want to go today, the KLR will get you there. It may not be in style, it may not be a luxury ride, but it will take it and you. Oh yeah, and it's freaking CHEAP! Bang for the buck, I doubt any other bike on the planet comes close. Not bad for the wrong bike.

    As for the specifics:

    I rarely get to WOT for more than a second or two - too many ruts, rocks, ditches, and logs. I can spin the back tire through 3 or 4 gears in the gravel. It can take 2-up on a camping trip faster than my passenger is comfortable going. If I had more power, I'd just get more speeding tickets on the way to the fun stuff. No point.

    It corners better on gravel road than any bike I've ever ridden. It's absurdly stable in logging country compared to a trailer-queen. No head-shake braking in the stutter-bumps either.

    Mine gets an oil change every year, just because I baby it. Maybe add oil in between changes once, and mine's a '90 that's never had the head pulled.

    Granted, you have to pull crap off to work on it. But, how often do you have to do that? I had to adjust my valves this year FOR THE FIRST TIME. Did I mention it's a '90? I was adjusting those freaking Honda valves every few weeks.

    And, as for the seat. Get 'yer but off it and have some fun out in the back-country where the bike belongs. I can handle maybe 100km on the pavement before I 'gotta stop. On secondary gravel roads (not the mainlines), I can put on 3x that without a whimper. Still grinning, actually :D When my ass hurts, it just means it's been too long since I've had any fun. Time to start looking for dirt tracks going off into the bush.

    David...
  17. two trackin fool

    two trackin fool Long timer

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    I think you need to sell it and buy a Harley
  18. FixerDave

    FixerDave KLR650 - XR200R

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    And, just how is THAT suppose to stop him from grumbling about having to add oil? :lol3
  19. Murphy Slaw

    Murphy Slaw Long timer

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    Man, now I REALLY want one.
  20. Kawidad

    Kawidad Long timer

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    OK, my turn. :D

    If you think this is a PIA to work on, try a Honda XRL with those gawd awful dzus fasteners. Those really suck. :deal

    You can't really judge the power compared to a 2 cylinder street bike that was designed to be a cut-rate street repli-racer. I've ridden an EX500 that belongs to my buddy, and while I wouldn't call it fast, it's surprisingly capable. Not really a fair comparison to any 650 single cylinder dual sport.

    Like everyone says, you just have to keep in mind what the KLR is and what it is not. Then decide if it fits you and your needs or does not. :freaky