KLR650 Only Thread......

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by willys, Nov 19, 2011.

  1. jjxtrider

    jjxtrider questionable

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    I'm fairly sure my Yamaha XT's have a 1000rpm threshold , maybe it's 800 ? I forget all the exact details these days, without some sort of prevention they'd kickback worse than they already do , took me a couple months to walk without pain when one of mine had a faulty cdi and it fired when I was just pushing it down to find TDC ,lifted me right off the bike and actually cracked the motors case.

    ECU, CDI , TCI , ect.. I tend to use cdi as sort of a blanket designation for ignition brain box, control box ,ect.. even though they're different . All bikes have one of those which can control spark under a certain threshold.

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  2. jmtaylor138

    jmtaylor138 n00b

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    anyone know of a cheap led brake light bulb for a gen1? im finding a lot of single filiment bulbs on amazon, but having trouble finding dual. thanks!
  3. Grinnin

    Grinnin Forever N00b

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  4. dualscotty

    dualscotty premix

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    Hey guys got some time in on my new to me 08 klr. Love this bike perfect fit for me. Verry impressive on the black top here in New Hampshire I do not have a manual yet. I know I am going to open up a big can of worms here. But I'll ask any way. Oil recomindations. And. Capacity. Thanks
  5. XDragRacer

    XDragRacer Long timer

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    Owner's Manual: Downloadable from the Kawasaki website, if I'm not mistaken.

    Follow the API Service Code and temperature viscosity recommendations, and . . . fear not. Just . . . don't let the oil level get LOW!
  6. dualscotty

    dualscotty premix

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    Ten 4 x drag. Thanks
  7. LngRidr

    LngRidr Been here awhile

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    The most important thing is to hold the bike off the sidestand so its level and make sure the oil is at the upper line. Do this at each gas stop since 08 models are known to burn oil especially if you're at high rpm's for a long time. Lots of people like rotella t 15-40. Lots of people use other stuff too and they work fine too.
  8. AlaskanScrambler05

    AlaskanScrambler05 The Alaskan Scrambler

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    Hey guys, I finished up my build and its going great. I love the bike. I do need more time off-road with it as I am pretty short and just need to get a better feel for it. One unforeseen problem struck me yesterday. the nipple coming out of the petcock came out yesterday and it looks like there is a space for an O-ring. So is there or is there not an O-ring to A: keep the nipple in...hehe. and B: stop it from seeping.
  9. shinyribs

    shinyribs permanent n00b

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    Not wanting to debate oil, but a few times I've heard people question Rotella due it's cheap price ( $12.99/gallon around me), but no worries there.

    I run 15/40 Rotella dino oil in everything I have to make life simple. One jug fits all. I used it in my 1k hp drag car a few years ago with no issues. I like it.

    I've used various other types of oil through the years and never had issues with any of them. Use what's convenient and affordable.
  10. Aprilia

    Aprilia Long timer

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    EagleMike no longer does installation work. If you go over to klr650.net and PM wymanwinn you "might" be able to convince him to do yours. He's pretty much retired now and currently in Austin Tx enjoying MotoGP. He'll probably get back to Calif sometime next week or next month....who knows.
  11. joso

    joso Avoiding4Wheelers

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    Anyone knows wether there might be an option the Gen1 cdi gets "Input" when the electric starter isn't used and ignores the minimum rev item?

    My battery is rather weak. When the engine is cold it doesn't fire up using the starter (revving rather slow). But it fires up immediately when push-started in 3rd gear. And I surely don't reach 1K revs by pushing the mule in 3rd gear for 20ft...


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  12. Wood1

    Wood1 Been here awhile

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    I do not know about the Kawasaki CDI but I do know one of the small engine manufactures CDI units will work at 250-350 rpm
    Jack
  13. XDragRacer

    XDragRacer Long timer

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    Your situation may be simpler than suggested:

    Your battery's weak, your cranking rpm, consequently, is low. The ignition voltage for a Generation 1 varies DIRECTLY with rotor rpm ONLY. By bump-starting, you may exceed cranking rpm available from a low-voltage battery.

    Incidentally, I think the exciter coil output voltage (increasing with rpm) on a Generation 1 may control spark advance: Higher voltage from increased rpm triggers CDI thyristor (SCR) earlier in cycle, firing plug earlier, effectively advancing spark with rpm.

    CAVEAT: Ignition timing premise speculation only; no documentation or experimental data in support. Some CDI systems advance timing in this manner; not sure whether KLR650 Generation 1 does also.
  14. Fixnfly

    Fixnfly Been here awhile

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    I just had a similar incident a few weeks ago,
    There is no O-ring. The nipple is pressed in and the only thing that holds it in place is the tight fit. I re-installed the nipple with a very slight bit of JBweld to help me sleep better at night.
  15. souperdoo

    souperdoo n00b

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    This not quite accurate.

    I was able to start the bike by kicking it with a Gen 2 ignition. The Gen 2 ignition has a Y/R wire that is given +12V when the starter relay is activated. I found that the Igniter would not make spark below 200RPM if 12V was not present on that wire.

    Putting 12V on that wire, the Igniter would make spark at 133RPM. I don't know if it will do it at a lower RPM; I couldn't reliably drive it any slower. It probably does.

    With 12V on the Y/R wire it is quite easy to kick a Gen2.

    I found that it is possible to kick start a Gen 2 without 12V on that wire. Once. Everything has to be lined up perfectly and it has to be a mighty kick. A very mighty kick. The kick starter will not take the engine through much more than a full revolution and the RPM needs to get above 200RPM.

    As to putting a Gen 1 ignition on my Gen 2, I did that. Not to make kicking easier or possible but because I could.

    The Gen 1 ignition has a similar yellow wire that gets 12V from the starter relay. I have not tested it to see what it does but I expect that it performs a similar anti-kickback function. I'm treating it the same as I did the Y/R wire, energizing it prior to kicking.

    Tom
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