KLR650 Only Thread......

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by willys, Nov 19, 2011.

  1. SkiBumBrian

    SkiBumBrian DualSport Crazy !!

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    Sounds like a pretty good diagnosis considering how you described how it had been ridden.... As most of us suspected it sounds like the valve seals were the culprit of the oil source.... Glad to hear you are getting her taken care of! I look forward to following your project...
  2. slowoldguy

    slowoldguy Tire Tester

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    Valve job was expected. By James, anyway. Still hopeful but....it has happened before. :( I am doing that big ebc rotor SV650 caliper big master cylinder reservoir mod at the same time as the 688. Don't know which one I am more excited about. The stopping or the going. ;)
  3. 8lives

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  4. DutchVDub

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    Speaking of tires, has anybody else ran the Michelin T63's? They came on the bike and seem to work well all around. I'll figure out how long they last.
  5. swaino

    swaino 08 FLHT

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    Hello all, i'm seeking some opinions

    I was riding my 08 KLR yesterday when, after about a half hour ride my bike just cut out.
    I rolled to a stop and tried a quick fix fuel check but all seem fine.
    I have to go and retrieve it in the morning and was hoping for a few ideas.
    Does the KLR have a low oil cut out?
    Thoughts anyone.

    Adrian
  6. jayareus

    jayareus n00b

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    Do the 09 models burn oil? Also...... what does it mean to say that bike "burns oil?"
    From what I've read this seems to be mostly a problem with the 08 models, but some people have complained about it in 09s. Is there a way to tell which 09s burn and is there an easy fix? I'm thinking of buying from someone on craigslist with 700 miles and they say they haven't noticed anything with the oil...
  7. Unstable Rider

    Unstable Rider Moto Fartografist

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    how many miles on your KLR brother?

    Sounds like it could be an electrical short or fault as much as anything else. Check the big 20 A main fuse, it's not in the fusebox under the seat. If it's blown and blows right away when you replace it, report back. You have a fault in your harness somewhere.
  8. Unstable Rider

    Unstable Rider Moto Fartografist

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    I would not necessarily be suspicious. Those are no miles, and someone decided it was just not for them, needs the money, or moved on to a bigger bike.

    The 2009 is just fine. Kawasaki changed the piston and or rings, as the 2008 models had some potential oil use issues. When they say "burns oil", it typically means there is space or slack between the piston rings and cylinder wall, we are talking 100 thousands of a inch or less, but enough from a fault, worn area, etc to allow engine oil from the crankcase below the cylinder or "jug" to sneak through around the piston or rings, and the oil makes it topside above the piston and ends up "burning up" or getting fired in sort of a gas oil mix near the spark plug. The result may be the bike smokes a little after it is warmed up (many normal bikes can smoke a couple seconds when they first start). The end result, a bike with this fault or "wear" will use or "burn" oil at a more rapid rate than other bikes. You have to really watch the oil level on a KLR (and all bikes), as the KLR is a fatty massive single cylinder, a lot of constant freeway riding can "consume" more oil that slower riding, but it's still considered normal "consumption", you just have to watch it. Check the oil when you stop for fuel, always. Check it in the morning before a ride. Check it at lunch time if you stop somewhere when the bike has cooled off a bit. My riding group carries some oil in those aluminum drink bottles that the kids carry water around in. Walgreen's, Menard's, etc has them for cheap, Walgreen's has a shorty version for $2.99 that is easily toted, mine has never leaked and I carry it in a tool tube. The consumption may only be a tablespoon or so for several hundred miles on a good engine, or it can be a half a quart on a really bad engine.

    One thing that the manual may be incorrect on is, when the KLR is standing straight up and down erect (:evil) and not leaning on the side stand, the oil "goats eye" window should be covered or almost covered, but not overfilled. The manual I believe says "half way" and that has been argued as not being safe. The manual also for years has said we have six gears, and we certainly have only five.

    The KLR is a fine utility bike, it's rolling farm machinery that is dead simple and reliable, but they are the bike that is made GREAT by their riders.

    Pick up that 2009 with confidence, and join us brother. :deal

    I want to insert a disclaimer here stating that not all 2008 models had oil consumption problems. Many, many of the 2008's were just fine. Much of the stigma of KLR's in general burning or using oil really has as much to do with how it's RIDER-OWNER took care of it. If you ran it low on oil on an occasion or two, the bike is not going to be happy with you. That has nothing to do with the quality of the bike, that could happen on a KTM, BMW, etc.

    I serviced a very late model BMW GS650 at work (when I was still working). It had been liquidated at our dealership, the guy stated he bought it to recon mountain bike trails in his remote area, he did not have any bags or anything on it and kept the bike stock. Nice bike, the little GS650 a quality machine. It had only 400 miles on it, he said it really never even had seen blacktop much, he mostly trailered it to the "target", rode and mapped potential wilderness routes for his fellow mountain bikers, took notes and returned home.

    That story so far would have most of us reaching for our wallets to snag that bike. I checked the oil, and I swear it took a quart to bring it up to level. I personally, would not have bought that bike for the world, not sure why a bike with 400 miles on it would be that low on oil, and it may have been a warrantied thing, but that kind of thing would always bug me. My boss auctioned the bike off and it sold to someone in Canada...

    End story, I own a 2009 KLR, two of my riding chums have the 2009's as well. We collectivly must have sixty or seventy thousand on these things, I have 26K on mine, and the oil thing or the running order of the bike has never been a concern. You do want to replace the doo hickey and doo spring. I will let someone else explain that one...
  9. Woodenveins

    Woodenveins Adventure Rider

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    With only 700 miles on it they probably didn't notice anything about the bike.
  10. Aprilia

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    I get a lot of KLR's through my shop. I've seen excessive oil burners (1qt every 1000 miles) up through 2010's. Not many 2010's but enough to raise an eyebrow. Commonality to oil burners is lots of high speed highway riding.

    Personally, I'd seek out an 08 due to bad reputation (lots of other first year issues - all easily fixed in your own garage). The discount you can get on one can more than make up for the cost of a big bore kit which solves for good any future oil burning issues. www.eaglemike.com

    On a side note...the 08-09's sure have driven up the costs of used OEM heads. Owners need to check their oil EVERY TIME they fuel up.
  11. tommu56

    tommu56 Long timer

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    I miss ordered and got a 3 1/2" wide front tire has anyone tried to fit it on?
    It's a Kenda 270 that is what's on there now but 3"

    TOM


    EDIT 3.25 my tablet changed it on me for some reason

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  12. 8lives

    8lives Dharma Bum

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    On a KLR it's so easy to check the oil I do it all the time,mine isn't a burner but I just tilt it up level often and look,I have spent my life on heavy equipment and checking oil is part of my routine,but ya folks at least every fill up if not every morning!
  13. jayareus

    jayareus n00b

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    Oh man, thanks so much for all the helpful replies, and for taking the time to type it all out for a newbie. :D
    So it sounds like even if the bike starts burning too much oil, I can either just carry some with me and top it off to make sure it's always above half full? Or I can get it fixed with a big bore kit?
    I'm mostly going to use the bike for commuting, so I figure this will not be a huge issue as it'll be a while before I add another 1000 miles to it, but how often should I be changing the oil otherwise?
    ...I guess what I'm asking for is a good resource for very basic newbie maintenance questions. I have zero mechanical experience, only driving cars where you don't really have to worry about this sort of stuff. :/
  14. Unstable Rider

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    PM coming your way.

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  15. 8lives

    8lives Dharma Bum

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    If you ever owned a aircooled Volkswagon than owning a KLR will be a treat,and KLR valve adjustment intervals are longer than a VW.I know cause I used to do VW's now it's KLR's.
  16. Unstable Rider

    Unstable Rider Moto Fartografist

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    That is effing funny. :D

    Growing up in the 60's, I know what you are speaking of.
  17. 8lives

    8lives Dharma Bum

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    If John Muir was still around he would be writing How To Keep Your KLR Alive.
  18. JBradley500

    JBradley500 Adventurer

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    I check the oil on my '05 every time i ride, whether it's before or after the ride i don't care but i try and make a habit of it.
  19. 8lives

    8lives Dharma Bum

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    Me too!Full is more important than clean,well unless you let it get to dirty,but we are just talkin full fer now.
  20. XDragRacer

    XDragRacer Long timer

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    3.25 X 21? No problem; have mounted 'em on both KLR650 and 250.