KLR650 Only Thread......

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by willys, Nov 19, 2011.

  1. viper770

    viper770 Been here awhile

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    no i had tubes in them thats the only way i have heard any one useing them didnt know you could go tubeless on them that dont make sence
  2. AlaskaIsCold

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    Ah, okay then.
    Any particular choice in inner tubes?
    I want to go for as thick as possible for strength.
  3. viper770

    viper770 Been here awhile

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    unless your doing a bunch of off road stuff on alot of sharp rocks and stuff stock tubes should be fine i use the moose raceing heavy duty ones but i go through all kinds of crazy stuff if you get a flat some times changing heavy duty tubes can be a bitch lol
  4. Tsotsie

    Tsotsie Semi-reformed Tsotsi

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    A lot of tires for the rim size are tubless. The KLR's spoked wheels require that you use a tube irrespective of the type of tire used.

    Tubeless tires have a different, firmer sidewall construction and seat tightly on the rim. Breaking that 'bead', particularly if it has been on for some time, can be difficult and may need specific tools. There are portable bead breakers such a the Aussi made 'tyre pliers'.
  5. XpressCS

    XpressCS Must. Have. Lumens..

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    Oddly, all of the shipping options promised 2 day shipping, why the hell would I pay any more?!

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    Cut the old worn out chain off, threw the new rear sprocket on and chain (front sprocket is still in good shape), instantly felt a difference in how the power comes on, and how the bike shifts. All rough before, smooth now. Old chain must have been really done for.
  6. slowoldguy

    slowoldguy Tire Tester

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    Ok. I saw this bike or its doppelgänger today. Waco, Texas? New Road this afternoon? Nah. Couldn't be. But it was close to same. Black over tan.
  7. DutchVDub

    DutchVDub Adventurous Pirate

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    You won't see my bike anymore :cry: :(

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    Details are in my ride report under the day tripping section.
  8. Dusty_Bottoms

    Dusty_Bottoms Adventurer Ordinaire

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    What the fug? Over
    How much you want for the seat? Sorry I'm such an ass.
  9. Danger4u2

    Danger4u2 KX500 is Danger4u2

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    Link

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=889323

    Sorry to hear about you wreck. Would a fork brace have helped?

    Just looked at some of your pictures and you have a brace on the bike.
  10. Tsotsie

    Tsotsie Semi-reformed Tsotsi

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    Sorry to hear this. You put a lot of time and love into that ride!

    This is the 3rd such event I have heard of. The other two were air-lifted out!

    Soon after getting my KLR in 08 I nearly sold it in disgust. I aborted a 1500m ride after 200miles due to the instability. I was comparing it to my rock solid BMW.

    The advice given on the various sites were all related to bearing adjustment, pre-load front anbd back, sag, tire pressures, tire types, front fender, wings on the bars and on and on. They may all be contributors to some degree and I modified and adjusted it accordingly - although nothing was out at the time. I beleived that there was something else more fundamentally wrong.

    Here are the eventual conclusions I came too;
    1. The frame flexes excessively from the head backwards. Loaded with heavy panniers, standing still you can simulate the 'tank slapper', tail wag and frame flexability by moving the bars quickly,
    2. In certain wind conditions, direction and speeds an unstable set of vortices comes off the back of the bike. These create pulsing forward that then plays into # 1.

    Over the last 50K's, through the very windy and thermal laden West Texas, the 50-60 mph side winds approaching Glacia NP in upper Montana-as examples, this is how I manage the above;

    1. Know and understand when these conditions exist or can be created. Winds and side winds over 20mph. Speeds at or approaching 80mph. Large vehicles moving at speed create a large bow wave and or corresponding low pressure area in the lee.
    2. If overtaking a vehicle move over and away as far as you can and then some to get out of their wake.
    3. If the occilations begin, slowly back off.
    4. Avoid a deathgrip or the temptaion to try to steer out of it.
    5. Move your body weigh as far forward on the seat in anticipation that you can.
    6. Understand and anticipate the possibility and ride accordingly before it begins.

    While not as solid as other makes in windly conditions, the fact that I still have the KLR , do many 800m+ days and it is my choice for long distance riding is testament that I now have it manageable and stable enough.
  11. jules083

    jules083 Long timer

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    I had the wobble on my bike also when I first got it. I took off the taller windshield and went back to stock, increased rear preload, and slid the forks up about 3/8" in the triple trees. The suspension mods made a huge difference. Quicker turn in, lighter feel, more stable on the highway.

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  12. _ransom_

    _ransom_ Adventurer

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    wow, great post! thanks for the information!
  13. WildmanSam

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    ever since i installed panniers on my KLR i too have got the speed wobbles on a number of occasions over 70mph.

    the best advice i have to someone who gets them is to take your left hand completely off the handlebar; this will almost instantly subside any oscillations.

    how fast do you think you were going when your dismounted from the bike? crazy lucky you only walked away with some road rash.:eek1
  14. Dave2

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    Water pump leaking antifreeze.
    Ordered part.
    Replaces mechanical seal and oil seal and o ring along with gaskets on clutch cover and water pump cover.

    Great - no more antifreeze leaking.

    Dang - oil now leaking.

    What the heck did I do wrong. Followed the instruction in the Clymer.

    Suggestions/advice/pile on.
  15. Drunk_Uncle

    Drunk_Uncle Long timer

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    Alaska Is Cold, When you decide on your tires, bring em by the house and we'll mount them up. Still deciding which bike I take to Dawson this year.

    Anyone have an approx. life span of D606s? I am very happy with their handling. I broke the right foot peg feeler off yesterday and don't think that is covered under warranty.

    I know the Tiger will end up making the decision for me. I love my KLR, but for a few thousand miles prefer the Tiger.
  16. _ransom_

    _ransom_ Adventurer

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    +1
  17. DutchVDub

    DutchVDub Adventurous Pirate

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    Between 50 and 60 MPH by my best guess, maybe slower but I'm not sure.
  18. Tsotsie

    Tsotsie Semi-reformed Tsotsi

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    There is a small O ring that seals out the oil. You could have scored it on the water pump thread when you installed that. It will need replacing now.

    Either tape the thread before you put the impeller on or carefully screw the impeller over the thread.
  19. Dave2

    Dave2 Long timer

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    Thanks. I did put tape over the threads before I put it on but I may have put it on in the wrong sequence/place.
    Ill take a look. The market site and the manual weren't very clear to me.
  20. mcpenner

    mcpenner mcpenner

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