KLR650 Only Thread......

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by willys, Nov 19, 2011.

  1. AK650

    AK650 Been here awhile

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    Yesterday, I installed an EBC 320mm rotor and pads, that I got from Eagle Mike. Very nicely made, and easy to install. Went for a test ride tonight, and quite pleased. It actually stops now! Having the increased braking power, really exposed the poor front suspension, though. The brake dive that was moderate, with the factory brakes, is now horrible. Will likely be shopping for valves and springs for the front end now.:(

    Jeff
  2. RandoCommando

    RandoCommando Wannabe

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    I've never heard of oil burning issues with the Gen I models. My 99 has never burned a drop of oil. The oil burning issues started with the Gen II models in 08, and the problem was rectified with the late 08 models. I don't believe there were oil burning issues with the 09 models.

    The change in models happened in 08, not 07. The 08 and newer models have a better lever, but the spring is slack and provides no tension.

    Regardless of what year KLR you get, do the doo! :deal
  3. Aprilia

    Aprilia Long timer

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    I think you meant to say too long not too short.

    Its actually 08+ models.
  4. Tsotsie

    Tsotsie Semi-reformed Tsotsi

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    Lets back up a little. 1st you tell us a few days ago that you can see oil in the sight glass(presumably the bike was vertical at the time) before your ride. If that were true (there would be 2 qts remaining in the motor), then adding 1/2 qt of oil would have brought the level up to full as the required amount is 2 1/2 liters. You say you added 2 qts? If that is correct then you would have had 4qts + in the motor? No wonder the motor puked the excess out through the oil drain that comes from the air box.

    You dont say that the motor was not running well -if so then you have dodged a bullet and avoided serious internal damage.

    Are you viewing the sight glass with the bike on the side stand or with it vertically? If the bike is on the side stand the sight glass should be empty when the correct level of oil is in the motor. Reading the oil level with the bike 100% vertical is essential. Then if the oil is not hot, wait 30 minutes for the oil to stabalize before reading the level..

    At home I park the bike in the same place on its center stand. Read the oil level after an overnight drain down. That way I have a constant. On the road if the ground does not appear level, as long as the oil is high I dont mind. If in doubt, out comes my 2" level. Also, when hot the oil will read slightly higher.

    Sounds like your brake pads are now oil soaked. You must replace them. sounds too like you have a good cleaning job ahead of you too.
  5. Tsotsie

    Tsotsie Semi-reformed Tsotsi

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    I have, but not as bad as the 08's did. The reason for the 08 piston and ring design change was oil usage at the higher rpm and ring lands breaking. And when a land broke, there WAS oil usage!
  6. Tsotsie

    Tsotsie Semi-reformed Tsotsi

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    Jeff, if you were supplied with EBC HH pads, they will score the rotor quite badly. Many of us have Galfer Green pads that do not score. They are soft and wear quickly, but still give good braking. Do you have a SS brake line? That will make your smile even wider!

    When last did you service the forks? I do mine every 20k miles. Which year bike? Oil level not correct etc can make a big difference. Changing oil viscosity and a fork brace do wonders too.
  7. XpressCS

    XpressCS Must. Have. Lumens..

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    Have a stroll on over to some of the other KLR forums. A lot have reported oil burners, mine burns a little bit of oil.

    That.
  8. Danger4u2

    Danger4u2 KX500 is Danger4u2

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    Like any new or new to you bike, you should keep an eye on the oil level. I did that for the first few oil changes on my '07.
    Mine does not use, burn or leak oil. I have road tires on my bike and have other bikes for any hard core off road.
    So my KLR never gets punished unless you call running 75/80 mph on the highway punishment.
    Now the only time I do a precise oil check is when I change it. I'll take a glance every once in a while for safety.
    I drain the oil hot and let it drip all night, refill with the engine cold, right to the top mark, bike on the center stand.
    For the most part I have a KLR I never have to worry about oil level.
    26,000 miles on the bike. I change the oil every 1500 miles and the oil filter every other oil change.


    Here's 6 KLR's, none of them use oil.

    [​IMG]
  9. sandalscout

    sandalscout blah blah blah

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    whoops. Yep, I did.
  10. XDragRacer

    XDragRacer Long timer

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    REALLY?

    Haven't noticed many Generation 1 owners complaining of oil-burning.

    Certainly, excessive oil consumption was not reported as a pandemic major issue until release of the '08 models, as I remember history.

    Then again, I wouldn't be surprised at ANYTHING found on, "other KLR forums."

    :rofl
  11. AK650

    AK650 Been here awhile

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    Yes, the kit came with EBC pads....will keep an eye on the rotor, thanks. Not installed yet, But SS brake lines are in the works.

    I doubt if the forks have ever been serviced. Its a 2006, that I bought used a couple weeks ago with 4800 miles on it. Has 6000 now. Given that I'm 235 lbs, and will occasionally be running it loaded pretty well, odds are its under sprung. My experience with other Stone Age damper tube bikes, has shown me no amount of magic oils/springs, will control dive like emulator/intimator type valves, or better yet, cartridge style guts. It came with a fork brace on it, which is nice. As a cheap temp fix, I do plan to replace the oil with something a little heavier, and put longer spacers in, to increase preload, so that sag is correct.

    Jeff
  12. Argentian

    Argentian Been here awhile

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  13. deejmeister

    deejmeister Been here awhile

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    Any of you guys have any valve shims to sell or swap? I need 2x235 and 2x255s. I ordered from Mike but he's still moving his shop so it's bomb to be a while. Pm me thanks!
  14. RandoCommando

    RandoCommando Wannabe

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    Was this on certain year Gen I models?
    I've never burned as much as a drop on my 99, regardless of how I rode.
  15. RandoCommando

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    Hmm... I see you have an 04. I wonder if this issue started during certain model years.
    Hopefully your issue won't get worse.
  16. Tsotsie

    Tsotsie Semi-reformed Tsotsi

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    It is my understanding that it applied to Gen 1 pistons as they were breaking lands. Whether it applied only to certain years of castings, I do not know. It was enough of an issue for them to change the design. As soon as the Gen 2 pistons were available they changed the P# and the Gen 1 pistons were no longer available. Then in early 09 they changed them or the rings again. I have not had need to nor seen or compared those to the previous generations as by then had gone to the forged 685..
  17. bdcorrigan

    bdcorrigan Been here awhile

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    '06 non oil burner with 6k miles! I hear it is a roll of the dice when you get above '01.
  18. DesertDuster

    DesertDuster Old Pueblo Rider

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    Rocky Mountain ATV can get them to you in a couple of days.
    http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/
  19. 8lives

    8lives Dharma Bum

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    2001,23800miles and only burns about 200cc between 2000 mile oil changes
  20. beemerjim

    beemerjim Been here awhile

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    If you have a bmw dealer near you, the shims from a K75 are the same--and they are cheaper, believe it or not.


    jim


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