KLR650 Only Thread......

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by willys, Nov 19, 2011.

  1. RandoCommando

    RandoCommando Wannabe

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    Ok. So I got the subframe bolts from EagleMike and I must say he was quick with the shipping and all the items I ordered from him came together.
    All top quality stuff.
    I did the drill through upgrade.
    My question is this:
    Should I have used grease on the bolts and in the frame?
    If yes, what kind of grease?
    I sent Mike an e-mail, but it's the weekend and I don't expect him to get back to me til Monday.
    I want to take the bike out today and tomorrow, but I don't want to put it back together til I know if I should grease everything.
    Anyone?
  2. Dusty_Bottoms

    Dusty_Bottoms Adventurer Ordinaire

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    I did the EM bolt upgrades too and didn't grease them. I don't remember if the instructions mentioned greasing them but if EM doesn't say "grease the bolt" in his instruction I gotta believe it's not necessary. That's my thought process anyway.
    :norton
    I've heard Mike will answer his phone most Saturdays if you're in a hurry to find out his opinion...
  3. RandoCommando

    RandoCommando Wannabe

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    Yeah. My instructions didn't say to grease anything.
    But I did notice there seemed to be some grease in the small upper bolts before I drilled through.
    I really don't wanna bother Mike on a Saturday with something that isn't that important.
  4. MotoBoss

    MotoBoss Bad Influence

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    It's not a requirement and not in the directions. But, grease it as it will provide a little less friction but won't hurt anything at all if it makes you feel better. Then get it together and GO RIDE.
  5. RandoCommando

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    I was thinking more along the line of preventing rust.
  6. MotoBoss

    MotoBoss Bad Influence

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    ok...................with the washer and nyloc nut and being under the seat there is very, very little water contamination possible. Yes a little grease would help in case of water...................but again I don't think necessary...........................but do it anyway as it sounds like a sane idea :D
  7. RandoCommando

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    Ok. Beings that I have never worked with grease, what do I get? LOL
  8. MotoBoss

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    Since you are going for waterproofness' use Maxima Waterproof Grease found at any motorcycle/dirt bike store, or any lithium would work fine.


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  9. RandoCommando

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    Thanks! :clap
    I'm calling the bike shop now to see if they have it in stock.
  10. climbology

    climbology n00b

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    Hello all, first post here. Ive been reading around that an 09 KLR can get 55mpg. However I am currently getting 40mpg. I do mostly fwy riding, avg 75-80mph. Also, how much does it drop when the bike is fully loaded, for like a week trip per say. :D

    sidenote: I have an aftermarket pipe, don't know if that affects it
  11. willys

    willys Long timer

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    Welcome...we need more info about the bike before saying IF that is NOT normal....at those speeds you are above 5000RPMs and that is usually where the KLR will start to drink fuel and oil if pushed.....watch your oil level!

    What has been done to the carb? If nothing and you just or someone just slapped a can on it....what about the airbox, airfilter? Snorkle? Jetting? Engine mods of any kind?

    I get above 40 MPG with a fully modded and loaded bike but not at 80mph! 70 yes.....I'm still in the mid 40's easily. No headwind either.:freaky
  12. Dougo

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    Thanks , from what I read it seems to be an important and fairly simple mod.
  13. leeinmemphis

    leeinmemphis Long timer

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    I have a stock(as far as engine goes) 2011 KLR. I have put about 600 miles on it now(450 of those in the past week). With mixed riding I'm getting 40-42 mpg. I'm not babying the bike but I'm not necessarily beating on it either. The more I ride mine the better I like it.
  14. IDRIDR

    IDRIDR Take me to the River

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    Took the '06 I picked up a few months ago with about 11K on the odo into Happy Trails for their 9th Annual Doohicky Clinic. There were a dozen or so bikes there for the Doo. Found that my bike's Doo was still stock. It was replaced with the Eagle Mike's version with torsion spring. One of the dozen bikes there had a busted doo and when I left I think they were tearing into the right side to see if they could find the rest of it. Do the Doo. And thanks to Happy Trails for an excellent clinic :clap
  15. climbology

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    Honestly I don't know if anything else was done too it. First bike so I'm still getting used to all the mechanics. Got it used at a dealership so they really don't know what the guy did before. But I will probably end up switching out the air filters. It's also been a lil windy lately, and I got kind of a lead foot (however that translates to on a bike) :huh

    And yea I heard KLR's are notorious for oil consumption, so I've been keeping my eye on it every other day, thanks for the heads up though! :beer
  16. Tsotsie

    Tsotsie Semi-reformed Tsotsi

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    Climb,
    The average KLR (all years) can normally get anywhere from the low 30's to mid 50's mpg. It all depends upon bike speed, wind, load, terrain and what you do with your right hand. 75mph cruising in reasonable weather, expect mid to upper 40's.

    Unless there is a controlled test, mpg is whatever you want it to be and not comparable to the next rider.

    Worst I have got is 32mpg driving into a 50-60mph headwind on MT Hwy 89 approaching Browning - my over the road speed was about 45-50mph in 3rd and 4th gear. Best, 53 puttering around with friends below 65mph.
  17. Ken

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    Should I do it to a 2011? And if this is a very known problem why the F does Kawasaki not fix it?
  18. Tsotsie

    Tsotsie Semi-reformed Tsotsi

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    Why? Who knows- that question has been asked for decades?

    The 08+ have an improved Doo- machined out ofr solid material and not a 2 piece welded unit. It does not fit on the shaft as well as the aftermarket EM one. The other less spoken about issue and equally important is the tensioner spring. There are two issue with this;

    1. The stock one it is too long. As a result the amount of adjustment is limited.
    2. The Kawa springs are made with a few nicks at the end bends. Being hardened spring steel, these sometimes break at that point.

    At the least you need to check or replace the spring. While in there most change both the doo and spring. EM has 3 different length springs that are properly bent. He also offers the torsion spring.
  19. Yokomo

    Yokomo Gorilla Adventurer

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    I shouldn't be answering this (cause I don't know) but I think the doo is better on the 08's but the spring is still weak. My bud has 15-16k on his 08 and he hasn't touched his doo. I asked him about oil use before I bought mine and he said his only uses oil when he's blasting down the interstate for hours.
  20. MotoBoss

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    KLR's are not notorious for oil consumption! I tire of hearing this statement made way to often! Not a rant but lets make a few points visibly clear............................

    We are takling about a model with a production run of over twenty years. This problem came about when the model change was made in 2008. Very rarely do you hear any major "oil consumption" problem with pre '08 models. Admittedly there was a quality issue early on in the "new" series but the INTERNET exploded it to catastrophic levels. Do a little research and you will find little issue up to the last couple of years and most of it is self imposed.

    In 2008 they changed the motorcycle to a more "highway" friendly model and along with it people, mistakenly, assumed they could ride at 75-80 mph on the interstate with no problem. The motor is still a single cylinder piston, the size of your fist, and high rpm's and aggressive speed takes a toll on that small cylinder and piston thereby using excessive amounts of oil.

    How many times do you hear this "oil consumption" issue and in the same sentence they state "I run at 75 most of the time" or "I ride the interstate most of the time" ? The majority of the problem to most extent is caused by the rider and not a symptom of the quality of the motorcycle build. I own a 1998 and change oil at every 3000 miles and I never have had to add oil in between changes. I ride with guys on an 2008, 2009 and a 2010 and none of them have had any issue with oil consumption, ever! That being said they (we) ride backroads at 60ish mph or under, never ride interstates and generally ride in a "explorer" mode when not totally off road. I would most assuredly guarantee you if an owner rode at an under 5000rpm style they would most likely never have any issue.

    Most folks don't ride at a slower pace but rather like to flog their bikes often and the KLR is not made for this style of riding. The KLR is a do everything motorcycle but not a modern designed, high tech bike that can withstand excessive stress on lower quality build materials. Wanna go fast, ride a sport-bike. Wanna just cruise, by a Harley. Wanna ride off road buy a street-able dirt-bike. Wanna do everything kinda OK, buy a KLR but do it within reason and expectations.

    Don't blame the bike for something it's not designed to do.





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