KLX250 vs. WR250R vs. DRZ400

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  1. woodysrookie

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    After riding many bikes from old XT 500's to newer yz250 two strokes, i would say this is the best little dual sport that anyone has made. The only thing that is close would be the DRZ, but that has 150 more cc's. If you do modify the wr it will blow anything under a 500 on the trails. But i guess it all depends on who is riding, what they want out of the bike. I did drag race a 1977 yamaha tt500 heavily modified(bored balanced, geared for highway, and with proper exhaust) and i outright smoked him down 285. This doesn't translate though into how fast you can go in the woods. The better suspension on the WR is just outright wonderful on the tight stuff. I have ridden a DR but not on the trails. The only thing i would reccommend is going with a 450 on this because the power is a lil soft for me on the nasty shit off-road. Like i said my opinion is this lil 250 has got to be the easiest to ride and the best to do it in the dirt with a plate off the showroom floor. But that's my opinion?
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  2. Krabill

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    13,000 miles is almost half way to the first valve inspection on a WRR.
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  3. roadholder

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    Yes, but the DRZ is a better observed trials bike! :D
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  4. montesa_vr

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    Yes, and both observations are kind of ridiculous, but useful. The greater low rpm torque of the DRZ would be very welcome on some nasty single track climbs. So think about how you like to ride before you choose.
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  5. Krabill

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    Negative. We've run our WRR's on our trials training obstacles and believe it or not . . . it does quite well :lol3 Anytime you want to bring a DRZ over to play on it, you're more than welcome to.
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  6. Flashman1

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    Are you afraid of a valve inspection (I never had to adjust them). It is really very easy.

    If I had to do it after every ride then it would be a big deal - but just checking every 6000 is nothing.
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  7. Krabill

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    Checking every 26,600 is even more nothing.
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  8. roadholder

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    Yep. The difference between the 250's and 400 is more torque then power. And the different between having a motor that is merely busy on the roads vs one that is screaming! :wink:
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  9. Krabill

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    You're right about not wanting a screaming motor heading down the highway. The DRZ feels like it's going to fall apart at 75 mph. The WRR is smooth as silk at that speed.
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  10. markjenn

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    Nothing to play out - the data speaks for itself. I have no issue with people liking the WRR, but saying they have the same power or same speed as the DRZ is simply not true as the data above clearly shows.

    - Mark
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  11. Krabill

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    It's rather amusing to read people's opinions of bikes that they have no first hand experience with. Go ride them both in a variety of conditions, then get back to me. Until then, you're just speculating.
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  12. Flashman1

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    Your right - even though I defended the DRZ in this thread I am interested in the little Yamaha.

    But power is power and the DRZ has more - offset somewhat by the wide range six speed tranny.

    Of course I have the best of both with my TE610 - wide range six speed and well over double the HP of the Yamaha.
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  13. roadholder

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    Yep. It's always desirable as well to actually read the post and see what the originator is looking to do before pushing your favourite bike as a solution.
    As soon as you see 50% + for road work...it's all about 400s or larger.

    Even off road, an engine that doesn't make enough power to pull the skin off a pudding until it's redlined, isn't a lot of fun in slick conditions where it is often good to short shift and find traction with the help of a torquier motor! :lol3
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  14. Krabill

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    You know, that's funny. As soon as I saw the required road work, I thought there was no way in hell I'd like to ride a DRZ on much pavement. It's buzzy, has a horrible seat, and putting a lot of miles on it will mean a lot of valve checks. The WRR is smoother, more comfortable, and doesn't require 1/4th of the maintenance the DRZ does.

    If you're only going to ride it at the drag strip, the DRZ would win out between those two, but if that's the case, I might suggest something a little bigger like a Busa or a ZX14. If you're going to be riding in the real world, with you know . . . turns and stuff, you might want to look at something a little more practical and comfortable that handles, stops, and turns better. But that's just me.

    I know some of you just can't handle it that one line item on the spec sheet is a little smaller on the 250, when the rest of the stats are glaring you in the face that it is a better bike for the real world.
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  15. Flashman1

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    One quarter of valve checks is NOT one quarter of maintenance.
    You still need to clean and adjust the chain.
    Clean air filter.
    Changes ties.
    Change oil.
    Etc.
    You put too much emphasis on checking valves - it's no big deal
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  16. Cypress

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    Wow this thread is getting nasty.

    The truth is there are pros and cons to both bikes, but I would give the WRR the nod overall.

    Things better about the WRR that can't be argued.

    - Better suspension
    - Better tranny, 6 Speed
    - Lighter
    - Fuel Injection
    - Better stator

    Things about the DRZ that can't be argued.

    - More power, stock v. stock


    Ask yourself if you want a bike with a little bit more power using 8 year + technology or something that does better in most other categories outside power and contains modern technology.
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  17. markjenn

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    Actually the DRZ recommended valve checks are at approximately 14.5K vs. the 26.6K for the WR-R. But let's not let pesky facts and real data get in the way of someone's fantasy world.

    - Mark
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  18. Krabill

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    I've ridden the bikes in question, so who is in the fantasy world again?
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  19. Krabill

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    You know what? Now that I think about it, you might be right. I mean if I completely ignore the fact that the WRR has:

    Fuel Injection - no altitude, hot/cold start, flooding issues
    Better suspension
    Better handling
    Better brakes
    Way more comfortable seat
    Better ergos
    Smoother engine
    Longer maintenance intervals
    350watt alternator
    Lighter weight

    . . . then yes, you're right. I mean since the DRZ is about a second quicker in the 1/4 mile (on paper), it is clearly the better bike. I don't know what I was thinking. Then again . . . the Busa fits this description too . . . except it's a little quicker than even the DRZ in the 1/4 mile. That's it . . . I'm going to sell my WRR and buy a Busa.
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  20. montesa_vr

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    DRZ at 75 mph = 7000 rpm
    WRR at 75 mph = 7500 rpm

    I don't think that's the difference between merely busy and screaming.
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