KLX650 riders UNITE

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by COBAUM, Aug 17, 2006.

  1. switchback

    switchback Eatin' Dirt Since 1982

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    I am looking at a 96 KLX. What are the must do's for this bike. Is the Dohickey the same on this bike as the KLR? Any other issues?
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  2. itsatdm

    itsatdm Long timer

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    No dohicky. Motors are different. Gear driven balancer, different head though both are dual cammed and different cases. About the only similarity is the carb, though the jetting is different. 2 versions of the bike. The R model is a dirt bike. C model a dual sport. Check KLX650 forum at Yahoo.com. Biggest complaint seems to be the auto cam tensioner and the auto decompression gizmo used for starting. They have fixes for both though the KLR uses the latter and no one complains.
    Typical power mods are: shim the carb needle, screw out the pilot jet a little, bigger main jet, and remove the airbox top. This along with a good foam air filter and aftermarket exhaust is all I have done and it made a noticeable difference. I confess I have never ridden a KLR but have ridden with several riders that own one and based on my observations there is a big difference in power between the KLX and KLR with the former having more mid and top end.
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  3. switchback

    switchback Eatin' Dirt Since 1982

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    Thanks for the reply. Nice to know that the dohickey is not a problem. Hopefully I can talk the price down on this one. Looks like the bike is in good condition but he is asking 600 over book value.
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  4. switchback

    switchback Eatin' Dirt Since 1982

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    By the way what is it with Kawasaki Cam Chain Tensioners? Had to put a manual one on my old ZX 750 turbo as well as the GPzs. Doesn't seem like it should be rocket science.
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  5. R-dubb

    R-dubb Dubbious Adventurer

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    I agree with most of what ITS has to say. I use an API cam tensioner, easier and more reliable than applying the "fix" in my book. The stock setup must be corrected as it simply does not work. If the motor makes an ice crusher type sound at idle the chain tensioner is fubar.

    Auto compression release is not really a problem. You just need to make sure the little spring doesn't get snookered when adjusting valves and such. It is the same concept as a centrifugal advance unit in an old distributor.

    Doing the valve adjust on this engine is not easy. It is a shim over bucket system and requires removal of both cams if any one of the valves needs a different shim. Takes some doing. Fortunately, they don't go out often. Be careful not to let the engine ever run on when the bike is on its side. Oil starvation on this beast will happen quickly and will cause certain damage to the plain bearings under the cam shafts. Nearly impossible to repair

    Be careful about not getting the jetting too rich. I am not a big fan of the CVK carb (same one as the KLR). Converted mine to a 39mm FCR and love it, but it's not a cheap mod. One of the reasons I gave up on the CVK is that mine was tearing diaphragms often while bouncing through rough terrain. Could be that it had a burr or other defect that I never sorted out. Even one incident like this in a remote area tends to sour the spirit. For reference, Harley's use nearly the same carb and many parts are interchangeable and cheaper than the Kawi's.

    Not much else to talk about. The gear box, clutch and bottom end are very reliable.

    Good luck and do let us know :ear
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  6. BENRON

    BENRON Crosscut Certified

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    First "mod" I did was to paint the purple frame and rip off the decals :ymca

    I love my bike. Of course, Ive always been one to embrace unique stuff.

    On a recent Advrider group ride I had a couple guys look at one side, Look at the other side, then ask "what is this thing?"

    Acerbis handgaurds now installed, Happy-trails skidplate is ordered.

    Only complaint I have is the vibration through the bars... But I have yet to do anything about it. Planning on filling them with lead shot one of these days.
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  7. BENRON

    BENRON Crosscut Certified

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    Oh, I also have a complaint about the seat.:huh

    I've been pondering carving up an old street bike seat to make something to attach over the current seat. Could clip on this comfy, sofa type thing, ride to camp, unclip it, and hit the trail. Would be REALLY neat if one could incorperate a supplemental fuel cell as well... Hmmm... Maybe some luggage racks too...
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  8. clapped_r6

    clapped_r6 The Spoad Warrior

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    I've seen a couple for sale around here lately, seems you could mount a http://www.tourtank.com to it pretty easily with the luggage rack. But I think I remember reading that it only carried about 2 quarts of oil???

    Think that's enough for an adventure touring bike?

    I'm mostly set on a DR, but this one looks interesting....
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  9. itsatdm

    itsatdm Long timer

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    See pg 1. Also modified stock seat, now 2 inches wider and flat.
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  10. HighwayChile

    HighwayChile greetings from Wa state

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    as much oil cap. as any 650.

    benp , good move on repaint, removing the puke meets color graphics.

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  11. HighwayChile

    HighwayChile greetings from Wa state

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    yeah just steal er' ....borrow itsatdm's :1drink

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  12. sandplow

    sandplow Been here awhile

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    hey is just got a street legal r model. I wanted to see if anybody knows if it has the same stator as the c model?
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  13. R-dubb

    R-dubb Dubbious Adventurer

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    No, very different and not interchangeble. The R has a primary winding only. Even the cover is different to accomodate the electric starter. Not to mention battery box, air box, regulator, CDI. Don't even think about a conversion.
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  14. sandplow

    sandplow Been here awhile

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    I was thinking of adding a radiator fan do you think the stator that is in the r model would support it?
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  15. ronbaror

    ronbaror V_Ron

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    I really miss mine.
    I had it for several years. One of my all time favorites for sure.
    I could never understand the KLR owners....

    Then it was stolen.... :(

    After a short while I found it....and got it back :)

    But soon afterwards, parts were getting stolen off it again.....plastics , CDI , seat , head light..... :(((( (Same guys that stole it the first time)

    I re-built it....and continued enjoying the wheelie popping torque

    Then, during a nice morning ride, the de-compression mechanism on the exhaust cam shaft broke and took the cylinder head with it.....

    I rebuilt it....again.....and sold it...

    What a mistake......now they don't make em' anymore.
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  16. Posaja

    Posaja Adventurer

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    Hi guys, anyone put the kick start on a C version as I did?? I have some questions about clutch:norton
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  17. Posaja

    Posaja Adventurer

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    No one did it??
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  18. Royal Tiger

    Royal Tiger Sd Kfz 182

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    I just bought a 93 C. I also got a 95 R parts bike with it. I have the tank and seat from the R and some of the green plastic. I mainly took the R when I bought mine as I wanted to add the kick start to my C. I'm open to parting out the R when I figure out exactly what I have. Another co-worker just bought a clean 95 for $675 and I got both of mine for $900.
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  19. Royal Tiger

    Royal Tiger Sd Kfz 182

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    One thing I do want to change, is a black seat on the C. Anyone know what seat fits that has the "Kawasaki" on it? I have 2 turquoise seats and one purple and they all have the lettering. I like that look and want a black one. Thanks.
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  20. Trey650

    Trey650 Are We There Yet?

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