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Discussion in 'Vendors' started by amanlikemike, Apr 2, 2012.
Easy when you know how!
Very good, elron! As long as you filled out the FB entry form after clicking on the sweeps graphics, you've hedged your bets nicely there.
Noooo sweat! Thanks, Luna.
You just did, lefty!
Spoken like a true gentleman!
We sure do.
I'd like to be entered as well please???
I have a GiantLoop Mojavi, but it's too small and the Coyote looks too big.... The Kriega has intrigued me and I am definitely wanting to get this set up.
I like having a decent amount of tool space, like the old XR's Only large tool bag or bigger for the top bag and then a size about double the capacity of the mojave side bags. This is for my XR650L.
What suggestion do you have for this use?
Thanks in advance for your assistance!
Add me to the drawing too. Kriega--some of the best gear out there.
Another 625 mile with the Overlander 30 this weekend... I like it more and more as I use it.
I currently run the BR Moto racks with brand X bags on my 990...I have one of your backpacks now and like it, and I am sure I would like the Overlander 60 as well. Has anyone mounted them up on a Backroads Moto racks? It looks like the racks are .75 or slightly larger than the 18mm.
Thanks for your kind words about our backpack. I'm sure you would like the Overlander 60 just as well. However, unfortunately, at the moment, the only racks we can guarantee a perfect fit on are from Touratech, KTM Power Parts and Metal Mule.
While the tubing on your Backroads Moto racks might be close enough for the clamps to fit, the shape of them will be the limiting factor. The ADV Platforms that the Overlander 60 is based upon has multiple mounting points for the hardware, to enable exhausts and body work to be cleared on various machines. However, the adjustment is all based around the most popular shape of frames, which are roughly rectangular, such as these from KTM:
I know the lads back in the UK are looking at alternative mounts for Hepco & Becker, as well as SW Motech frames, which will hopefully be available in the not too distant future. I have also asked them to see if it is possible to develop mounting systems for oval frames, such as the ones you have or Wolfman etc, but I am not sure if it will be. That said, I'll let you know as soon as I do.
Sorry I can't be the bearer of better tidings at this stage. But do let me know if I can be of any further assistance.
I loaned my my US20 to my buddy Peter for last weekends trip. He has my old R15 but had never used any of the US bags. He was very impressed. (I hope he gives it back)
His comment as I was breaking camp and loading the Overlander30 "Wow! Those bags look so easy to pack up!" And he was right.
And now after another trip with the Overlander30 bags I am down to one and only one nit-picky complaint. The female fastex buckle that goes over the roll top needs to be on a shorter piece of webbing. Not that it doesn't work the way it is... I just think it would work slightly better with a shorter strap when the bags are not full.
This past weekends trip included a lot of fast, poorly maintained fire road, dual track and single track. The bags were rock solid. They did not require any messing with at all. Awesome.
Based on what you say, it sounds like the Overlander 30 would be ideal. The capacity is going to be more than double your existing set-up (15 liters per side vs 4.5 liters per side), but that doesn't mean it'll be any more restrictive. You could either just grab a decent tool roll and stash it in one of the Overlander bags, or - as would be my personal preference - pick up and US-5 and put the tool roll in that, strapping it to the rear fender using the Rack Loop mounts included in the Overlander 30. Like so:
There won't be any fit issues on your XR. And - by sheer coincidence - you can see a the Overlander 30 lined up next to the same bags you have in traveltoad's photo above!
I hope that helps, but please feel free to post up any more questions you may have, or PM me a phone number and I'll be happy to call and learn a bit more about your particular requirements, so we can go through the options in greater detail.
Thanks - as always for the detailed feedback, Aaron. I'll definitely pass your nit back to Dom (who designed the Overlander) to see if there's any reason why that webbing loop shouldn't be shorter.
Lovin' the photos of the system out in its natural habitat too!
Once Peter loads his photos I should have a couple more...
I was looking at this photo again:
And I remembered a thought I had while riding this past weekend.
I think I and going to pull the cinching straps out and re-install them with the cam buckles on the rear of the bags. My reasoning is that with most crashes the bike will be moving forward and with the cam buckles on the back of the bag they are less likely to impact something hard and maybe break or crack.
Not a criticism of the bag... just an adjustment I am going to make.
My thoughts on this (not that you asked), as I have a Mo'Javi and I have had the Coyote.
If you use the Mo'javi and leave the top tool pouch empty (or if you have the new Mo'Javi with the removable tool pouch), You can very easily mount a US10 or US20 on top (on the rear of the seat or the rack). A US20 will look something like this:
I like this set up as it keeps the bike very narrow. I will probably continue to use a similar set up on my 400 when we are little-bike camping. The trade off, however, is that you end up with more weight up high on the bike.
The Coyote is listed as a 30L bag which matches in capacity with the Overlander30. Unlike the fit on my Super Enduro, on an XR I think the Coyote will actually fit very well and is a viable option (sorry Michael). My reasoning for moving to the Overlander30 from the Coyote was three fold. One was difficulting in packing: even though the Coyote is a 30L bag, I found that once my gear was packed there were always weird shaped empty spaces which usually were filled by me stuffing things into them. The problem is that when you openned the bag to set up camp all these little pieces would fall out everywhere and these little pieces needed to be carefully repacked just so in the morning. So nine times out of ten I ended up leaving the spaces empty and would strap a US10 behind the Coyote. The rectangular shape of the Overlander bags makes them easy to pack and allows you to utilize all 30L. The second main reason for my switch to the Overlander was weight placement: The Coyote (by design) carries more of the load up on top of the seat or rack. I never really felt it was an issue, but the Overlander bags carry all 30L on the side of the bike, none of it is on top, so the weight is lower. If you read back on one of my earlier posts I voiced a concern that the Overander30 might be a tad too wide and, well as much as it pains me to admit it, I was wrong. This past weekend we spent some time on narrow-ish singletrack:
and even with brush dragging on the bags they never felt too wide at all. The last reason for my switch is related to the previous one, bag placement and versatility: While the Coyote kept the bike very narrow which is good for more techinical riding, I found that having a bunch of the weight on the seat made the bike more top heavy. I also found that with steep decents (part of technical riding) my ass was hitting the Coyote often. To compensate for this I started trying to locate the Coyote further back on the bike, making the weight high and back on the bike... not good IMO. So the placement of the Coyote always felt like a balancing act between forward for better weight balance and back for more ass-room (yes, that is the technical term). This issue is eliminated with the Overlander30 bags as they are on the sides of the bike. Having the bags on the side of the bike also gives you the option to leave your rack (or rear part of your seat) empty (low weight, lots of ass-room) or to add an additional bag (US5, US10 or US20) to your kit on those rare times when you just need that little bit extra.
*whew* I think that's it... I'll bet Michael wants me to shut up now.
Thanks Michael, that's what I was afraid of...I will change out the racks and give you a call. Thanks again.
Don't shut up quite yet................I have more questions............when you unpack the Overlander can the bags or bag mount stay on the bike?
Do these bags have the inner liner?
With the Overlander 30, if the bags are not fully loaded can you secure or cinch the bags tight so items in the bags do not move around?
I certainly agree with your assessment of packing the Coyote. I also find that you can not totally tighten/cinch up the bag if it is not completely full so loose items move around.
Good photo's also..............thanks.