Kriega USA Luggage Q&A

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by amanlikemike, Apr 2, 2012.

  1. MadM

    MadM Dreamer

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    Hey!

    Thanks for your answer. I will go and see a used R35 that some one is selling locally and if it is in a bad shape I will be looking at a new R25.
  2. levain

    levain STILL Jim Williams

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    My 13" macbook air with a case fits in the pocket of my R20 like it was made for it. Great backpack! I spent a week with it loaded down wandering Paris last week and never even knew it was there.
  3. amanlikemike

    amanlikemike Recovering Speedfreak

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    Just found these shots on http://midlifemorocco.blogspot.com

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    And I know, I know... the 660 Ténéré isn't available in the US (typical, because I really want one!), so apologies if this makes anyone sick. I just thought the system looked really neat on it and the pics might be of interest.

    Cheers,


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  4. amanlikemike

    amanlikemike Recovering Speedfreak

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  5. team ftb

    team ftb Befuddled Adventurer

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    OK going to give the Overlander 30 a try along with a couple pull straps for the bike.

    A question on packs.

    I have used hiking packs due to the suspension of the pack and its ability to handle the load effectively. Kriega has got a different take on this system and not quite sure it makes sense to me but willing to give it a shot.

    Here's what I need to replace:

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    A 25 liter pack that carries 3 liters of fluids, 11" laptop, and the rest of the stuff.

    A feature I enjoy in my various packs is multiple storage compartments to keep me organized without having to dig through 25 liters of stuff looking for things.

    *passport and bike paperwork in one location (handy for border crossings)
    * insulin, needles and glucose meter in separate compartment
    * wads of cash in secret compartment hidden from view when digging inside the pack
    * Motion Pro multi tool and headlight in another small compartment for convenience

    Rest of the stuff in the main compartment.

    What would be the pack I should be looking for from Kriega? Keep in mind I'm not stuck on the 25 liter size and could trim down to a little smaller size if it works.

    Thank you.
  6. Droptarotter

    Droptarotter Long timer

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    ftb;

    I'll let Michael nail the sizing for you, but I can tell you that the hydro 3 and the R15 just seem to dissapear due to the strap system.
    What is the red thing above your ugly feet?

    What did you decide on for a luggage system???

    Cheers
  7. pechorin75

    pechorin75 Adventurer

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    Hi -

    First time posting, but I'm hoping Mike from Kriega might be able to give me some insight here. I recently purchased a new US20 bag w/ the tankbag adaptor kit for my BMW K1300S. I'd read lots of good reviews, and though I'd never used a tankbag before, I thought it sounded like something worth trying.

    Well....now that I've had a chance to play around with the bag/adaptor (i.e., test mount it on the bike), I'm wondering if I'm either missing something or if the stuff just isn't a good fit for the K13S, or...what.

    I guess the main issue is the attachment of the bag to the adaptor. According to the instructions, you attach the alloy hooks to the loops along the side of the adaptor. Seems simple enough. But in practice, doing that requires a 90-degree twist in the straps (the loops are side-to-side, rather than front-to-back)...and something about that just leaves me scratching my head, because it's like the hooks are trying to pull themselves out of the loops when tension is applied. It may be secure enough, but it just seems odd...

    ...especially considering that all the other loops the alloy hooks are designed to mate with are oriented in the "proper" direction.

    Anyway, I then made a cursory inspection of the underseat area on the bike and discovered that mounting the bag on the rear portion of the seat (because of its shape, and the inaccessibility of frame rails) looked iffy as well...and after listening to all the various straps and hooks clanking around on my paint while messing with it, I pretty much decided that I was done with the whole thing.

    But before I put the stuff on eBay, I want to make sure I'm not being too hasty. Am I missing something really obvious? Do I just have a warped conception of how a tankbag should fit? I was picturing something nice and tightly bound to the adaptor, and thus the bike...but I ended up with this big, awkward floppy thing with straps coming down at odd angles.

    Any thoughts?

    Thanks
  8. team ftb

    team ftb Befuddled Adventurer

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    I'm goona give the OL 30 a try thanks to the brainwashing (by you and others) of this thread:D.

    Red thing is a Sven Saw

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    Fits in the packs avalanche probe pocket perfectly and zips shut. Pefect for getting rid of nagging wives and GF's.


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  9. traveltoad

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    team FTB, I am sure Michael will chime in... I would say it is between the R15 or the R20. And, personally, I'd go for the R20 (I had an R15 and moved "up" to the R20), though I do not carry a laptop, so maybe others will have slightly different advice regarding that. Neither the R15 nor the R20 probably have as many organizational pockets as you are used to... but I have found both packs easy enough to get and keep organized.

    I keep a US5 strapped to the outside of my R20 most of the time. If the US5 is empty... it is flat and light though it gives me extra (waterproof) storage when needed.
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    I also have a kube on one of the straps:
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  10. amanlikemike

    amanlikemike Recovering Speedfreak

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    Hi pechorin,

    While I'm deeply honored that you popped your 'ADV cherry' with a post in the Kriega thread (careful now, this forum can be habit forming! :deal), I am somewhat distressed that the post related to problems getting your gear to work...

    That said, I am pleased to say that I can help and we can absolutely get a perfect fit on the big Beemer!

    Full instructions were included with your equipment, but just for ease of reference I've posted them below (click on the image to access larger downloadable versions if you need to):

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    For the tail mount, please refer to the alternative set-up, which involves joining the 4 x subframe loops into pairs to form 2 x long straps. Once you have set the ideal length (generally approx 1"-2" wider than your seat), simply lay the 2 x straps across the area under the seat, with the loops on each end just protruding from under it. Then refit the seat, trapping the straps beneath it.

    From there on-in, it's just a case of placing the bag on the seat, clipping the Alloy Hook Straps into the top of the bag, hooking them into the loops protruding from beneath your seat and cinching down tight. To remove the bag, simply slacken off the Hook Straps (leaving them clipped into the bag) at the QR clip and unhook. The US-20 has web loops on the base of the bag, which you can attach the hooks to, in order to keep them tidy while carrying the bag off the bike. The subframe loops can remain under the seat.

    The only time you really need to use the QR clips on the top of the bag is for quick access on the go. This way you prevent the hooks 'clanking around' at any point.

    This option is very secure and works well for bikes where access to the subframe is limited or non-existent.

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    With regard to your issue with the tank fit, I must apologize for the fact that this little tip isn't in the instructions, but I have asked the chaps back in the UK to modify the sheets so that it is included in future.

    While the attachment method above is 100% secure, in order to eliminate the twisting of the straps you mention, I find that threading the the Alloy Hooks through the webbing loops on the US Tank base plate (from the outside, in) then attaching the hook to its own strap is much tidier and just as secure.

    Like so:

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    I understand that the first install can be something of a 'head-scratcher' (it was the same for me all those years ago!) but I hope that the info above shows that it really is 'easy once you know how'.

    Please let me know if that solves your dilemma and how you like the gear once you've had chance to really test it. Or if I can be of any further assistance.


    Thanks and all the best,




    Michael
  11. pechorin75

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    Michael,

    Thank you very much for the helpful info....I'll give it another shot and see how it goes. Didn't mean to be negative; just got a bit frustrated (and I wasn't thinking I'd have to use the alternate means of attachment on the rear--though obviously I will).

    On the tankbag adaptor, I'd actually tried threading the clips through, but I'd attached them to loops on the bottom of the bag, rather than the straps themselves. Your solution seems like it would work better.

    Thanks
  12. amanlikemike

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    No worries, mate! That's what I'm here for

    Just want you to be 100% happy with your gear.


    Cheers,



    Michael
  13. amanlikemike

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    Hi mate,

    Congrats on settling your luggage dilemma. You sure did your homework, so I'm convinced you won't regret opting for the Overlander 30. Thanks for trusting Kriega!

    Before I throw down with my recommendation, I have a few questions for, if you don't mind:


    1. How would you like your drink served, sir? :D I ask because the way in which the R25 and R20 (for these are the packs I'm currently oscillating between) store the reservoir and route the tube are different. Both do the job great, but the R20 was designed specifically to be fully hydration compatible (i.e. the reservoir slots into a dedicated compression sleeve against your back, with a strap to keep it upright and there are ducts in the top corners of the main compartment for the tube to be threaded through and out over your shoulder). With the R25, the reservoir is placed in the outer zip pocket (with a strap to keep it upright in there) and the tube is just fed out of the top of the zipper.
    2. How important are 'organizer pockets'? Kriega packs are all essentially open in design. The ones we are talking about have a large main compartment, a small reinforced nylon / polyurethane mesh inner, a sleeve against the back panel (in the R20 this has compression straps for the aforementioned hydration system, while in the R25 it is just a slim 'document sleeve' for papers, maps etc, but you can fit slim 15" and below laptops in it) and a zippered outer pocket . in general we tend to stay away from organizer pockets for a few reasons. One is that they involve lighter weight material and more stitching, which all has the potential to wear out over time. Another is that organizer pockets make less efficient use of space (if you have a round object and a square organizer pocket, for example, you’re screwed). This is based on military packing principals – and those boys know how to carry a lot of gear in minimal space! For organization we have the Kube 1 and Kube 4 laptop case (works as a general storage pod too!), or recommend other stuff sacks / pods etc from outdoors stores etc to separate things. For passports, cash and papers etc, we have the Stash, made especially for that job. And funnily enough, I have had a customer contact me to say it works great for his insulin equipment too! The Kube Pocket is invaluable too...
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    Stash:
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    Kube Pocket on R25:
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    So, if hydration is a key function for you, the R20 might be the way to go. However, based on what you need to carry, it does look like you would need the R25's 25-liter (with Kriega gear, the number in the name always denotes the capacity in liters) size. The heavier duty R25 harness might also be good too.

    Usually I recommend the smaller R15 /R20 for off-road riding, but - based on the pack you have been using - I am sure you would be fine with the R25. More than fine in fact - the way Kriega packs distribute the weight and enable total freedom of movement, not to mention easy on and off, will be a revelation after riding with a hiking backpack! :D

    But if you were to go for the R20 for the reasons stated above, I would supplement its 20 liter capacity with either a US-5 or US-10. Probably the 5.

    Oh yeah! And there's always these if you go for the R20, which is short enough to wear one with. Great for stuff you want to keep very close.

    R3:
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    R8 (with removable tool roll):
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    Let me know your thoughts / comments.


    Cheers,


    Michael
  14. amanlikemike

    amanlikemike Recovering Speedfreak

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    P.S. Cool tool! :thumb

    ... And I prefer the term 'enthusiasm' to 'brainwashing'. :D Mind you, I suppose brainwashing isn't such a bad thing, as long as your grey matter is actually fresh and clean once it's done! :lol3
  15. traveltoad

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    Once again, Michael prooves why he is Mr. Kriega.
  16. amanlikemike

    amanlikemike Recovering Speedfreak

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    That's what Mrs. Kriega said! :lol3
  17. gots_a_sol

    gots_a_sol Been here awhile

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    Is there some kind of key ring/clip in the Hydro-3 that I am blind to? Considering I never noticed the strap in my R25 for the hydration bladder (it is just a buckle in mine?), it is entirely possible I just don't see it somewhere :rofl


    One of the things I liked about my old camelbak was not worrying if my keys were going to randomly fall out while digging around in the pocket. It isn't enough of a concern to go back to it though :lol3
  18. Droptarotter

    Droptarotter Long timer

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    Ready for the RTW trip;

    US10 on the tank.....US20 on the tail and OV30 on the sides.............



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    It might be better with a US5 on the tank and the US10 on the tail??

    It's nice that I have a few options.



    Cheers
  19. traveltoad

    traveltoad Aaron S

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    Is there a bike under there? :lol3
  20. Droptarotter

    Droptarotter Long timer

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    Yeah............I usually just put the Hodaka inside my US20 and strap it to the back rack of my KTM 640!

    Cheers