Kriega USA Luggage Q&A

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  1. traveltoad

    traveltoad Aaron S

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    Agreed. The Kube keeps most dust and most water out. But if you end up in a serious downpour some water will get in.
  2. woolsocks

    woolsocks Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the help!

    I'm 5'6" tall and 160lbs. I have a stocky and athletic build like a wrestler. I've read some places that I will have trouble fitting the larger Kriega packs. I'd like to order an R30 or R35 at some point for commuting purposes. I always wear a jacket with back pad, shoulder and elbow armor. What's the deal with this sizing rumor I've heard about? Can you cinch it down tight enough to fit a small fry like me? :ear
  3. amanlikemike

    amanlikemike Recoverin speedfreak

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    Hey Wool,

    You shouldn't have any issues with our packs, but it is advisable to go for the smallest one you feel can handle the job. The R35 is a deceptively large beast (35 liter capacity) and so I would suggest that you look at the R30 or smaller.

    The R25 is our best-selling pack because it is such a great all-rounder and is the perfect size for the kind of gear you need to tote day-to-day. It's also not as long as the 35 or 30 and so is less likely to contact with your rear seat if you have a machine with an upright riding position.

    If you'd like to PM me a contact number, I'll be more than happy to call and learn more about your specific requirements, so that we can get the ideal pack for you, your bike and your kind of riding.


    Cheers,



    Michael
  4. yuu

    yuu Been here awhile

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    Another +1 for this. It'll take a short light shower without getting the internals wet. But more than that and you're looking at damp innards.

    When on a pack strap it's out front catching anything falling from the sky pretty directly

    The Kube is very handy for at hand items - phone, ear plugs, cash etc. I love mine - but if you expect to be in the wet do bring a baggy.
  5. JustRon

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    I just bought the Rack Loops to attach a US-5 (toolkit inside) to my 'berg rear fender. They do look sweet and they seem well-made. However, they definitely don't hold the bag snug to the fender. I'm a little worried that the slack (maybe 3/8") is going to cause a malfunction when riding through whoops/bumps. I may attach a third strap which is bolted to the fender and allows no movement at all- just for some extra safety.
  6. amanlikemike

    amanlikemike Recoverin speedfreak

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    Hi broadwayron,

    That definitely shouldn't be the case. Any chance you could post some photos of your installation? From those, we should be able to get a rock solid set-up. Also, the US-5 (which us designed to be a bolt-on fender pack, rather than a tail pack, like the rest of the US range) really requires a set of our cam straps to fit perfectly.


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  7. JustRon

    JustRon ex-broadwayron

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    I'm actually going to use one of your cam straps to make the third strap I was talking about.
    For the other 2 straps, I used NRS straps- those things are pretty indestructible, and I've got the US-5 packed to the max (and it's kinda heavy).

    (In hindsight, I'm thinking maybe I have the Loops too close together... maybe there needs to be zero slack. But then, the pack would be suspended above the fender, maybe 1/8" or so?)

    Edit: I just added the third strap between the Loops. Honestly, the reason I didn't use the 2 cam straps that came with the US-5 is the bolt holes were so small, I didn't trust that [skinny] size bolt to hold the bag. Plus, I wasn't too confident in the plastic cams. But, I think the way I have it now is pretty solid.
  8. amanlikemike

    amanlikemike Recoverin speedfreak

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    Fair play, mate. However, the US-5 straps are heavy duty webbing, reinforced with Rhinotek material and stainless eyelets, while the buckles are the highest grade Acetal resin, which is designed not to crack, fatigue or react to UV or chemicals etc or wear out. So, you can be confident that it'll stay put, no matter what, when bolted directly onto a fender. All it needs is a little threadlock and over-sized washers and you you're good to go. So much so, that that I have never heard of a single one failing.

    To attach a US-5 to Rack Loops, any appropriately sized set of straps should be fine. The straps supplied as standard with the US-5 can be too short to use when the Rack Loops are configured for use with a Overlander 30. When fitted only for attaching tail packs, the Rack Loops should be positioned to ensure a solid fit with no slack / movement or lift.

    Images of the ideal fitment using the US-5 with replacement cam straps and Rack Loops can be found here: http://www.kriega.us/rack-loop-enduro-dual-sport-dirt-bike-luggage-mounts/. That said, if you're happy with your current fitment, then that's great. But please do feel free to PM a phone number, if you'd like me to call and go through the options with you in more detail.

    Cheers,


    Michael
  9. traveltoad

    traveltoad Aaron S

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    Good info Michael.
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    modeselector Common as muck

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    Anyone with the Overland 60 set-up that would like to share some pics?:pynd
  12. traveltoad

    traveltoad Aaron S

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    Ok... so.... how to fit the Overlander30 onto a small bike.

    First of all, this was a good time to play with the rack loops. I have a new rear fender to install... so even if I end up turning my fender into swiss cheese... it's no problem!
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    So, drill in hand, time to START DRILLING!

    But... hmmm.... this is pretty easy. I know that I want one set of loops forward and low on the fender. So looking at the contours of my rear fender (2001 KTM 400) there really is only one place to mount them. Then place a US10 on the fender lined up with the front rack loops... and well... mount the rear loops. Pretty damn easy.
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    The other holes on the top area of the fender are from the old tail light/inner fender and the new tail light/inner fender, not from the rack loop install.

    I mounted each set of the Rack Loops (front and rear) centered from the lower edge of the fender to the body line. Aesthetically they look a bit uneven, so I will try them mounted an equal distance from the lower edge to see how that looks. (I don't know if that makes any sense.

    So really, with a little thought and careful drilling, this is a quick and easy install. But will the Overlander30 fit?

    Crossing to the rear Rack Loops:
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    and Bob's your Uncle!
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    My only concern is on the left side. I am not sure if the plastic side panel will support the bag. It doesn't seem to put much of any pressure on the side panel... but you never know.
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    Just for giggles I tried to cross at the forward Rack loops, but it was too close to the forward mounts and the bags sat very high and forward.
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    I realized that a set of US Alloy Hook Straps or Cam Straps is required to properly mount a US5 or US10 onto the Rack Loops, so I will order those from Michael on Monday. In the meantime I placed the US10 on the fender where the bag should sit once secured with the correct hardware.
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    When I remounted the Overlander30 bags I moved them one hook forward.
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    Seems better, but I will have to ride the bike to be sure.

    And then a couple photos of the Overlander30 and the US10... which is WAY more stuff than I ever plan to carry on the little 400...

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    None of the bags were stuffed full for these photos, so a full bag will be bigger.

    Edit: New fender with the Rack Loops repositioned slightly to be even from the lower edge.
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  13. traveltoad

    traveltoad Aaron S

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    Question for you Michael...

    I see these straps, which appear to have a hook at one end and a quick release buckle at the other end.
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    However, the US Bag Ally Hook Straps seem to be different. Or does it include a quick release buckle?
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    I think I want what is in the first photo... or do I?
  14. traveltoad

    traveltoad Aaron S

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    Another question for you Michael,

    In this photo:
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    Are the US5 bag straps bolted to the bikes side panels or fitted another way?

    Thanks,
    A
  15. amanlikemike

    amanlikemike Recoverin speedfreak

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    Those would be drilled and bolted on, Aaron.
  16. amanlikemike

    amanlikemike Recoverin speedfreak

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    Hey Aaron,

    Those are the same straps just used in slightly different ways. Our Alloy Hook Straps are made up eight components - 4 x straps with a male QR clip on one end and an alloy hook on the other, plus 4 x web loops (the alloy hook is threaded through one of these in the image above). The web loops are used to make a mounting point on the subframe beneath the seat on street bikes. The subframe web loops aren't required when using these straps on dirt bikes with Rack Loops because the alloy hooks attach directly to Rack Loops

    Each set of Alloy Hook Straps comes with everything you need for either application.

    Hope that makes sense.


    Cheers,



    Michael
  17. amanlikemike

    amanlikemike Recoverin speedfreak

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    Looks like a textbook installation to me, mate! :thumb

    Technically, you don't *really* need Alloy Hook Straps to mount the US-10 (you could just thread the compression straps through the Rack Loops), but they are a decent upgrade which makes attaching the removing the tail pack a lot easier and tidier.

    And I wouldn't worry about that left side panel to much either - it should be more than up to the job.


    Cheers,



    Michael
  18. amanlikemike

    amanlikemike Recoverin speedfreak

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    Hey mode,

    We've got some official shots and also a few snaps from our R&D rides. There's a quite a few sets out there now (I know there's a few folks from here due to head out on some long-range rides with them pretty soon), so hopefully more candid photos will start cropping up very shortly.


    Cheers,



    Michael
  19. The Heathen

    The Heathen Been here awhile

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    Ok, so the overland 60 looks like the best deal going. However, I've got the wolfman racks and really like their size, shape etc. The question is, could I use the hard bag mounting kit as well as the other mounting kit with my wolfman racks. If so this would make the perfect set up.
  20. amanlikemike

    amanlikemike Recoverin speedfreak

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    Hi Heathen,

    Glad you like the looks of the Overlander 60. However, Wolfman racks are quite an unusual shape and - as far as I know - are only suited to the same brand of bags, so unfortunately, they will not accept Kriega platforms.

    At the moment, the Overlander 60 has been designed to fit standard shaped 18mm frames from Touratech, Metal Mule and KTM Powerparts. There is a little more tolerance built in, but any other frames will need to be within around 10mm of the dimensions of those models just mentioned.

    Let me know if you need any more info.


    Cheers,



    Michael