KTM 1190 ADV R Ultimate Tire Thread

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  1. coloktmGS

    coloktmGS Been here awhile

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    Or so I hope it will become....

    I've focused on the rear as the front options seems to be more available and meet most criteria. However, opinions on the fronts are welcome and appreciated. The rear is another discussion all together.

    The rear has a few issues and criteria:

    1. Must use stock wheels
    2. Per #1, must be tubeless
    3. Must be available
    4. If you think the stock Continental is a good Off-Road tire, you'll be happy with anything...this is for those looking for more.


    Here's what I've come up with for off-road tire options for the GS Eater (at least in the US), by manufacturer:


    Stock Rear Tire Size: 150/70-180

    Dunlop: NO TIRES THAT FIT

    Michelin: NO TIRES THAT FIT

    Continental: TKC 80s are available according to Continental, but I can't find them for sale? http://www.conti-online.com/www/motorcycle_de_en/themes/press/pr_2013_09_16_tkc80_en.html

    Metzeler:
    MCE Karoo - No glowing reviews online, poor longevity
    MCE Karoo 3 - Seems to be some fitted up...thoughts?

    Pirelli:
    Scorpion MT90/AT - Looks pretty street oriented...experiences?

    Mitas: While these aren't technically available in US, they are available from Canadian distributor to be shipped to US.
    E-07 - Hard to find stock, good reviews, some reports of knobs cracking
    E-09 - Hard to find, good reviews, some reports of poor handling on wet pavement

    Heidenau:
    K60 - Has large center rolling strip that creates a very slick off road experience, great longevity

    Others? Please add to this list...
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  2. Joseph42s

    Joseph42s Adventurer

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    Probably a good idea to split out an 1190 thread. But chill dude....:rofl:freaky
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  3. Mowster

    Mowster Stressed Member

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    The Heidenaus's look like the best match for the R model for dirt/road split.



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  4. Dubl-A

    Dubl-A SuckerDucker

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    I'm really liking my Karoo 3's on my XC. Neither 18" or tubeless though
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  5. HellSickle

    HellSickle Scone Rider

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    It might help to specify what type of terrain you will be riding. Deep sand? Rocks? Hardback? Sticky mud or silty mud?
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  6. Joseph42s

    Joseph42s Adventurer

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    "We have successfully run the TKC 80 tires on our 1190 both with and without
    tubes without any problems or air loss. We are not aware of any ETA from
    Continental for a new tire."

    Sales and Technical Support
    Touratech-USA / CycoActive, Inc.
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  7. coloktmGS

    coloktmGS Been here awhile

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    Here's the update from MX1Canada, on the Mitas front:

    "The E07 and E09 in the 150/70x18 size is available however the rim size
    recommended is 4.25"
    I am trying to get information regarding fitment to the 4.5" size and will
    get back to you with the recommendations."

    The 90/90 - 21 Tubeless front TKC is widely available I have found.
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  8. CanningOz

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    Have had TKC80 tubeless on my R for dirt riding, and they're good in our forest roads.

    Not really happy with the Conti Trail Attack 2 tyres for sporting road riding, especially wet weather grip. Would really like for Metzler to make the original Tourance tyre for this bike, as I think they'd be a lot more grippy on wet pavement. It's hard to get temperature into the Conti's when wet and cold, when you can with Metzler. Apart from a big difference in feel, it's obvious when you stop on a cold and wet run, the Metzler steams off water sitting on the tyre much faster than the Conti's. This means you've got to ride like a pussy in the wet compared to your mates on Tourances..... And I don't like that much - Especially as KTM's are supposed to be faster than boring old GS's.

    I know tyre life wouldn't be great with Tourances, but I would pay that in a heartbeat for more grip.
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  9. JoeShoreline

    JoeShoreline Adventurer

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    I have been using KENDA tires Trail tread soft compound they wear fast but they don't howl on road and they offer great traction in sand and most other terrain. Not so good on super hard dirt or frozen gound. 5.10 on rear 3.25 front. I usew them on my 300xc 500exc 690 enduro and will now try them on the 1190.

    I tried the continental twinduros and I felt they were like riding on slicks in soft terrain.
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  10. JOKER650

    JOKER650 Long timer

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    OH...1190 OR SUMPTHN..





























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    SORRY...PUI:freaky



    SPLIT:lol3
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  11. Wonway

    Wonway KTM Fanboi #2

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    Are you going to post that in every 1190 thread? :huh
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  12. JOKER650

    JOKER650 Long timer

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    haha...no sorry man. Just having a little PUI fun.
    1190 is a great scoot:1drink

    I will feel bad in duh morn'n.
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  13. fhammond

    fhammond Been here awhile

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    I think these are the correct Heidenau's for the 1190 R. Can someone confirm?

    21:
    Scout 90/90 – 21 M/C 54T TL

    18:
    Scout 150/70 B 18 M/C 70T TL

    The K60s seem like a good choice. I had some TKC80s on my old bike and in the rain on the road, they were bad news. Tempted to get a second set of wheels from Woody's, put something aggressive for the dirt on them but that's kind of an expensive option. Hmmm...

    Thanks,
    Fergus
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  14. JOKER650

    JOKER650 Long timer

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    What tires are you guys looking for?

    Won't any tire that fits a 950/990 fit on the 1190?

    THere are many tire threads In "OC" that might give you some pretty good reviews. I know the 1190 is not the same as the 9X0's but I think the wear & traction figures would be the same.
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  15. vasculopath

    vasculopath You're not your bike

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    Dude, you've either gone too far with the hair of the dog thing, or you're too hungover to process. 1190 stock rims are spoked tube-less. Right now, tube-less dirt tires for 150 width rears 18 inch rims are scarce in the US, and Woody doesn't have a firm option, though they are working on it...
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  16. JOKER650

    JOKER650 Long timer

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    HAHA...right on. See I didn't know that about the 1190 :freaky
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  17. vasculopath

    vasculopath You're not your bike

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    Ha Ha, it's all good. New bike blues. The 1190 is so good on road from the factory, that I'm waiting for Woody to send me a big bill with a new set of wheels for off road adventuring and Moab exploring...
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  18. Jimkatoom

    Jimkatoom Not a nOOb

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    The Heidenau k60 Scout is a great all around tire, and don't be too concerned about the solid center block unless you spend time in deep sand/mud...
    Nobody has mentioned Mefo tires. I used them on my 950S for the western TAT, and they were great. Surprisingly good on pavement, as well.

    Try
    Southwest Moto Tires
    www.swmototires.com/
    Southwest Moto Tires carries top brands for motorcycles, ATV's and scooters such as: Metzeler, Pirelli, Dunlop, Michelin®, Bridgestone, Avon, ITP, Maxxis, Mefo, ...

    Don't know if the Mefos are tubeless or not...

    J
    EDIT- Just checked swmototires, and they don't seem to carry Mefo tires anymore...
    I'll just go with the Heidenau K60s...
    J
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  19. coloktmGS

    coloktmGS Been here awhile

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    Heidenau's are ok for on road but in any kind of slime...well, they suck. That center rolling strip is like a patch of ice in wet grass.

    Mefo's were mentioned above, so far, I can't find those in tubeless

    Colin at MX1Canada has confirmed that the tubeless Mitas 150/70-18 tires do work on the 1190's rear wheel.

    I've ordered an E09 rear and TKC 80 Front...will report soon.
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  20. coloktmGS

    coloktmGS Been here awhile

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    Ok...so I got a Mitas E09 and a TKC 80 fitted up. They work great, look great and so far, they are excellent both on road and off. Here's a photo of the bike with it's new shoes:

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    BTW, if anyone wants a set of the original Continental TrailAttack2's, I'm selling the take-offs with 100 miles on them in the FleaMarket. See Here:

    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=951738
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