KTM 1190 adventure std MTC failure, won't start. Need help.

Discussion in 'Ridiculous streetbikes with 6 CPUs and too much HP' started by RichyRich68, Mar 1, 2014.

  1. Grundy

    Grundy Been here awhile

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    he's a BMW troll
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  2. brianpc

    brianpc Been here awhile

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    lol! and he's got 389 posts, maybe he should be out riding that BMW instead of trolling other brand forums? :rofl
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  3. RichyRich68

    RichyRich68 Adventurer

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    Rode a few hundred miles and the problem has never returned. All good here.
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  4. ShawnWorks

    ShawnWorks Rock on!!!

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    Great thread guys, thanks. I've been trying to get a class bike going, and this is now the 3rd time it wont start. Gonna charge the battery and give it another go.
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  5. dirtbound4Max

    dirtbound4Max Hangin' 10 on the F8

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    Try some prune juice Brother! :-)..........Sean (AdventureBoundGS) :wave

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  6. patjfp

    patjfp n00b

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    Where is the battery located on the 1190 Adventure?
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  7. ZeZeZoom

    ZeZeZoom Been here awhile

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    Under the seat, behind the ECU, covered by a plastic cover.
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  8. DirtJack

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    The 1190's have an undersized battery and relatively high parasitic draw. The battery was in need of a charge. If the build date of this bike is before November 22, 2013, then there is a battery cable recall. OEM cables had improper crimps on ends which have high resistance. This effects charging and starting current flows.
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  9. hartsideman

    hartsideman Ive Got a 6 CPU Pack

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    Will it not come up with an MTC failure, if you spin up the back wheel without the front turning ? im sure mine did once when I was spraying lube on the chain.
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  10. Black Hills

    Black Hills Long timer

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    yes it does, but it goes away if you cycle the key.
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  11. Arreola

    Arreola Adventurer

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    Same thing happened to me with 1,000 kms.
    What the service manager told me is that the battery might been undercharged and a communication error went off.

    The battery do not charge unless you rev up the bike above 2,500 rpm.
    I manage to start the bike and rode for 10 minutes.

    The problem was gone for good. Took the bike to the dealer and did a full scan, it showed the error on the memory, but they did not had a clue why this happened.

    They told me that if the error is presented again, they will replace the module and the battery.

    This is the only case that we know of in Mexico so far with the 1190 adv. S.


    Arreola
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  12. tagentry

    tagentry Northwest Silverback

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    I recently had my speedo warrantied due to the glass cracking and allowing moisture in. First it took 7 weeks for the speedo to show, just enough time for a few rainy trips to really screw with things. Dealer had my bike for 2 weeks due to fault codes popping up even after they replaced the speedo. I had fault codes start after getting back from a very wet trip up to Vancouver. I never got a complete explanation, but the dealer claimed that KTM had investigated and found fw bug in the ECU.

    In any case, if it keeps happening, have you dealer contact KTM directly.
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  13. Bundu

    Bundu KTM 1290SA

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    No, I've measured the voltage across my battery and it remains the same at idle and at 5000RPM, so I'm assuming it charges fully from idle
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  14. sproot

    sproot Sturdy Adventurer

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    Unless your charging circuit is broken :deal:lol3
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  15. DirtJack

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    Mine shows (if you believe the dash voltages) below 14 volts most of the time. Since KTM spec'd an AGM battery, the charging voltages should be higher, up in the 14.4 range, immediately after starting. The voltages I see in the high 13's mean the battery re-charges slowly and perhaps never fully recharges during short winter rides using heated gear/grips. My battery shows voltages in the 12.5 - 12.7 range after resting over night when ridden the previous day. The battery cable recall has been done on the bike. It is 12.63 this morning using a known to be accurate Fluke meter.
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  16. Corsica101

    Corsica101 Been here awhile

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    No recall for mine, build 01/'13. Left the bike 3 months in Argentina without use and batt cables connected...fired up after 3 secs:D
    Recall is for 2014 models...
    done 31k, 26k in S.Am and had it since 06/'13 and never let me down...
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  17. DirtJack

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    Should have said 2014 models with build dates before November 22, 2014.
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  18. alex_piloto

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    I have been dealing with the frustration of this mtc failure for sometimenow and its really frustrating. replaced the batt. rode for 300 miles. next day mtc fail and no start. giggles batt cables it started. checked tightness of batt cable it was tight. ran another 300 miles back no prob.
    3 days later tried to start same ntc fail. put charger on. tried nxt day same fail. wtf. someone know where mtc unit is
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  19. alex_piloto

    alex_piloto Adventurer

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    do you kmow how I can reset the connection of the mtc sensor
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  20. txakurron

    txakurron Adventurer

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    in case it helps anyone: have had 2 issues with battery (bike not starting) on my 1190R from 3/2013.
    dealer advised KTM knew about issue, not related to battery itself but to starter engine, they told me KTM was looking into fitting the one mounted on the 1290 SD to fix the issue...they changed my battery 2 times then only recently the starter engine. no more issues since

    the last time I had to be towed to the garage was due to the MTC (motor traction control my dealer told me) failure message...my mechanic told me the issue was an idle sensor that goes in the crankshaft; sensor replaced and bike running again.

    my bike is EU version with 60K on the clock
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