Ktm 1190 adventure !

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  1. fifthcircle

    fifthcircle Beer Knurd

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    This is a great thread. I have not gotten to ride the 1190's, but I am thinking about putting a deposit on an R. Crazy?

    I know I want and ADV bike again. I just don't know if the KTM is the right one. Lots to choose from, with benefits and drawbacks to all of them.

    Sent from my fat thumbs on a small touch screen.
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  2. pyarnall

    pyarnall Adventurer reborn

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    FifthCircle.... the dealers are supposed to have demo bikes that they can't sell for a certain amount of time. They want (experienced) riders to try them. I would suggest that you try to get a demo ride on the standard and the R, then decide. The standard has the on the fly suspension options... one up, two up, luggage, no luggage, and damping options... street, sport, enduro... and they really work. Those features are not on the R. The R is taller in the saddle, too and unless you are really running in the tough stuff, it just seems like not a very good trade off IMO. And the standard is a bit cheaper.

    You can still mount the aluminum skid plate and all the other goodies if you so desire. I thought I wanted the R and lusted for the orange frame, but after riding the demo standard I was hooked. The electronic integration of ride, traction control, and ABS options is simply amazingly good.
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  3. Doug Matson

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    Just got my Grey 1190 and I am amazed, it feels lighter than my 950 and turns much sharper. Fueling is very nice it feels more like a well set up carbed bike than fuel injection, no sharp cut off as it idles down. The throttle is to stiff and there is some heat under the seat, I just ordered a wings short so that may help. The heat is not really that bad, rode about 50 miles today in 80 temps (SoCal winter) and if your moving its not a big deal. Seat felt good also. Took the canister out of from under the rest seat and the tool kit fits in there now. Maintenance looks way easier than the 950 also which is nice. fit and finish is very nice except for the little glove box in the dash thats a joke! Can't find out how to adjust the headlight, it's a tad low, they are sending me the manual didn't have it with the bike. The electronic adjustments are so easy and really work, the brakes and motor are just incredible! Only problem is my face hurts from all the grinning I have been doing for the last two days.
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  4. PatSmith

    PatSmith Been here awhile

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    I installed the Adventure kit and the orange crash bars that are stock on the R model. The accent on the bike is gorgeous and I love the overall styling of the 1190 Adv. A matter of personal taste to be sure, but a great looking bike IMO.

    What is contained in the Adventure kit? And what color did you get?
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  5. outridingagain

    outridingagain Been here awhile

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    The dealer in Jacksonville has the Demo bike (Euro model) they gave the dealers at the release. Only they are not Demoing it, they just want to sell it.:fyyff

    They have not received any R models and said they wont until at least March?
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  6. pyarnall

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    Doug.... to adjust the headlight you must first lower the plastic circular shield that fills the hole where the forks rotate in the fairing. This is the shield that the horn is mounted to. There are two screws roughly in line with the forks tubes in recessed holes.

    With that down out of the way, you will be able to see, (mirror and flashlight), a knob that is X shaped below the lowest (high beam) bulb. That is the up and down. Turn clockwise to raise the beam, counter clockwise to lower.

    The book setting is to have the top of the beam 2" below the vertical height of the low beam (top bulb) center when projected on a wall 16' away. Done with the load on the bike that is anticipated, driver, passenger, luggage, whatever. Note that this adjustment is for the LOW beam only. The High beam comes along for the ride

    Obviously, you can put it where ever you want, but too high is surely going to get you the ire of oncoming traffic.. Feel free to PM me and I can send you PDFs of the relevant manual pages if you like.

    On the speedo calibration front... I emailed Tom at TuneECU to confirm if the software was compatible with the '14 Adv. His reply... "TuneECU is NOT compatible with CAN-bus. To the current models of the KTM, we have yet no results." No word back from my nephew yet as far as the KTM diagnostic tool capabilities. He is busier than a one armed paper hanger so there may be a delay, but I will find out eventually.
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  7. Doug Matson

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    Thanks for the info on the headlight adjustment!
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  8. pyarnall

    pyarnall Adventurer reborn

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    Pat... my 1190 is the orange version. There are two kits available and I chose the R kit which has the Tourtech aluminum bags and mounts, the LED running lights, and the aluminum skid plate. I swapped for the orange crash bars, (instead of the black), which go really nicely with the orange panels. They would look good on the gray version as well. The crash bar install eliminates the small gray triangular plastic panels that cover the bottom of the fuel tan.

    I swapped out the stock clear wind screen for the short gray R wind screen.

    Presently trying to get a Kisan Path Blazer headlight modulator installed, but they have yet to get me one that works with the CAN-bus. They will figure it out at some point. I have been riding with headlight modulators on all my bikes since they were invented some thirty years ago. Saved my arse to many times to count. I often turn it off in stop and go traffic or if I am riding with friends and not in the lead, but other wise I want to be seen, and they do that really well.:clap
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  9. pyarnall

    pyarnall Adventurer reborn

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    Though not necessarily the most highly respected bike mag on the planet their recent review of the 1190 Adv rather runs out of superlatives. Google "cycle world KTM 1190 review".

    They find the seat a bit 'soft for all day riding and the wind screen buffet free'... Opposite of my experience. Maybe there really is an parallel universe! Regardless, interesting read if you are considering one with out the benefit of a demo ride to convince you. :-))
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  10. Black Hills

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    hmm.. after 200 miles yesterday I find their comments accurate? I am 6'2, 225#. I can feel the seat pan after about an hour in the saddle, but setting the windscreen on my R model to the highest, most forward position made thing buffet free for the Arai XD?
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  11. kag

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    The headlight issue I do not think can be solved with adjustment. Replacement is what is needed. It just does not throw enough light out there to see well. For old rural 2 lane night riding its almost risky riding as the side to side light field is so poor.

    I know you can add aux lighting and plan to but a better main beam is a must on this bike if you ride rural 2 lane roads like I do at night.
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  12. pyarnall

    pyarnall Adventurer reborn

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    Hi Black Hills... you have 3" and 55 lbs on me... probably explains our different experiences of the seat and screen.

    I have not ridden my 1190 at night yet so I can't comment about the lack of beam coverage. I was never overly impressed with my 990 in that regard either.

    My Adv kit included the LED running lights which I have installed but not tried either. They seem pretty potent. It may be some time before I can report on how well they work. Some serious winter in these parts at the moment. Hope to get a few weeks in Fl in March. That may be the soonest I will get to test all the lights.
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  13. Black Hills

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    that is probably the difference!! I haven't ridden much at night, but I thought the low beam just needed adjustment? the high beam was as good or better than my 990 or CBR1000?
    we have had a cold winter as well, but it was almost 60 yesterday. I did run into some snow/ice but nothing too bad, I think I may get to like the electronics! There was one odd moment. I pulled into the local biker bar for a beer on the way home and as usual made a big U-turn in the empty lot next door, clicked it into neutral about half way around and shut off the key. Nothing happened, it kept idling? when I came to a complete stop the bike shut off?
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  14. DirtJack

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    That's the "quick get-away" sensor. Must have been the biker-bar set it off. :D
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  15. kag

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    There is a short delay in shut off on mine...like half a second even just idling in the garage. Just chalked it up to the brain box finally telling the engine its dead.

    I will have to check that out to see if its a safety over ride that prevents it from dying via the key switch until motion has stopped. Either way not to concerned
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  16. Black Hills

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    I wasn't concerned just surprised, apparently doesn't shut off until you stop moving? I probably coasted 50 yards or so but as soon as I stopped it shut off.
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  17. JETJOCK125

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    I have had my 1190 R a couple of weeks now. Only 61 miles because of the weather here.

    I just noticed the rear brake rotor is discolored (blue) from over heating. Maybe I'm dragging the rear brake? I need to adjust the pedal a bit lower I guess.
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  18. Doug Matson

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    Mine shuts off like that also and I noticed the rear rotor was discolored also.
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  19. XsilverGS

    XsilverGS Been here awhile

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    Have you tried THIS with the ignition switch?
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  20. Todd-Squad

    Todd-Squad See Ya, Bye.

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    I went for a ride on my R today. Just for fun as I was coming down a hill into my neighborhood, I reached up and turned off the key. I was going about 30 mph and nothing happened. I drove about a mile to my house shifting gears up and down as I made several turns. When I pulled into my driveway, engaged the clutch and braked, at about 8mph the bike finally shut off.