KTM 1190 first impression's

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  1. smitty141

    smitty141 Been here awhile

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    Well, I stopped by the local stealership yesterday. I heard they had there demo on the floor. I pulled up in front of the dealer and there it was. a new 1190 standard. After walking around it for a few minutes, I am just scratching my head. If I wanted a street bike, I could buy a 1190, or a S-10, or a GS/GSA. It also had the ugliest trunk I have ever seen stuck on the back...

    Not kicking any new owners in the nuts here, I just don't get it...

    Does anyone else feel the same?? Looks like a nice bike, but I am glad I bought a left over 990 back in May.

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    "If I wanted a street bike I could buy an 1190....."


    I think that's what they are counting on.
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  3. Hoologan

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    Because I already have an XR650 for off road work, the 1190 is going to make a great replacement for my vstrom. :thumb
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    What ever you do...don't ride it!

    That way you can continue to love your new 990.
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  5. chief_lee_visceral

    chief_lee_visceral Been here awhile

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    The R will do everthing the 990 will do just faster and more comfortably but you are worried about looks? I guess you don't get it.


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  6. KX50002

    KX50002 NooB, my ass

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    Looks like a street bike to me, do they perform well in the dirt?

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    el-oh-el @ this thread :lol3
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  8. smitty141

    smitty141 Been here awhile

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    Well I guess this is the way Big Adventure bike:puke1 are going, and KTM is just following the market. It is a shame they don't have a new, updated model to replace the 990. Something that leans toward the dirt side..


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  9. chief_lee_visceral

    chief_lee_visceral Been here awhile

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    hehe… yeah sour grapes.
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  10. GrenDesb

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    All other manufacturers have a 1200 and a 800 in there "adventure" line up.

    Makes sense to me that KTM built up a 1200 around an existing engine.

    Would also make sens that they'd come up with an 800 in the future.
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    Seedless please...:D

    What are these street bikes selling for anyway??

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    Hmmm... You're right! If only KTM made an 1190 Adventure, but more dirt oriented. We could call it the 1190 Adventure Rally, or - hell - let's call it the 1190 Adventure R. You know, it could have about an inch more suspension travel, a flatter single piece seat to move around on, 21 inch front and 18 inch rear wheels/tires, a crash bar, and aww fuck it the hypothetical dream KTM can have slightly longer rake and trail for improved stability off road! Yeah, we can all dream, right?
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    Ive never ridden a 990 but I have ridden the 1190, the 990 weighs roughly 500 and so does the 1190. And the R model has about the same ground clearance, but it doesn't have the rally bike look. So the 1190 is going to be so much worse off road how? Because it looks more street? Not sure I can wrap my head arou d that thought process. I do get the fact that the 990 has the off road look but KTM was missing out on lots of see due to its lack of creature comforts and the engine needed some updates.
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    Lulz good one!
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  16. vasculopath

    vasculopath You're not your bike

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    The whole 9xo guys hating on the 1190 is really entertaining. As far as I can tell, it goes like this:

    "The 990 was a big dirt bike, and the 1190 isn't, so it's shit"

    Now everyone knows that any bike over ~350 lbs or so is not going to be good when you are talking about real dirt. That's why they have dirt bikes! Now why did they ever put a 9x0cc engine in a bike with off road pretentions anyway? Because we all know that those little dirt bikes we all love are shit when you're doing 300 mile plus days, be it asphalt, gravel, dirt, whatever, so they put a big honking twin in there to eat up the gravel roads and asphalt. The 1190 outdoes that and somehow that is bad? Did they forget that the bought a 9x0 because they may have to ride 200 miles of crappy asphalt and gravel roads to get to the dirt and then when they found an MX park that their bike was too freaking big to enjoy it?

    KTM ups the ante by making it even better in getting you to the dirt, but adds all the things that 150rwhp with off road pretentions needs, and all hot modern superbikes over 1000cc have; traction control, ride by wire, etc. Then the 9x0 guys bitch about electronics, when they were already fuel injected and had ABS? KTM somehow has done a bad thing by giving you a hell of alot more power but making it user friendly?

    I'm still waiting for a real objective review that pits say the 990 Baja against the 1190 R, where competent riders take both bikes off road, and they show us a trail that the 990 handles perfectly well, and the 1190 took a big dump and cried.
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  17. OrangeV

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    Dear Sir

    The fact is as you said, ''you just walked around it for a few minutes''
    hell why didnt you take it for a ride, yes the 1190 has a strong street bias and will be mostly used by guys to cover road and some small dirt riding.

    However the 1190 Adventure R was pitched soleley at buyers who do most of their riding off road, the real tough stuff.
    Both bikes have merit in their own right..
    You also have a left over 990, aint nuthing wrong with that, however the 990 has nothing on the new 2014 1190:clap
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    ^^^^ Thanks for clearing that up for the OP [​IMG]
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  19. OrangeV

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    Please allow me to share the thoughts of Blake Conner in his review of the 1190 :wink:

    http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/02/06/ktm-1190-adventure-first-ride-review/

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    Despite the tall, commanding riding position and long-travel suspension,
    I occasional forgot that I was riding an ADV bike.

    At times, I would have sworn that I was on a 990 Supermoto with a seriously massaged engine.

    Front-end feel and grip far exceed what I expected of the 1190’s 19-in. front wheel/tire combination. Turn-in felt crisp, while the WP suspension kept the bike from wallowing mid-corner.

    With its stability-enhancing 61.4 in. wheelbase, the Adventure felt planted in sweepers, giving the rider lots of confidence. All helped, of course, by the 1190’s 507-pound fully fueled weight, which is light for its category.

    As you can see, the performance of this new KTM is pretty incredible.
    In everyday use and in touring capabilities, the 1190 is a far better motorcycle than the 990 it replaces.
    Protection provided by the adjustable windscreen was good, with virtually no helmet buffeting (an even taller option is available).

    The riding position also can be altered, via a top triple-clamp that allows the handlebar to be set in two positions. The pegs are adjustable, too, while seat height can be raised 0.60 in.
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  20. Nerb

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    The 990 looks more like a road bike to me... so much plastic.

    Following? The 1190 smokes its competition. Its leading the way. If you want something more dirt orientated, theres the 690. Nothing is needed in between.

    Why? The 1190 is better than all the 800's on the market currently. Go ride a tiger 800, f800 then the 1190. I know which one you'll buy.
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