KTM 300 opinions

Discussion in 'The Rockies – It's all downhill from here...' started by thump_co, Mar 7, 2012.

  1. Shuffler

    Shuffler Hommes Grande

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    I gained cruise speed on top so I can run ~65 without getting buzzed to death. Some Flexx bars might help too. Having tighter ratios is nice...no big gaps like the XC/W had, so it was a good investment.

    I'm running 13/51 at the moment; dropping a tooth in back might get me a bit more but I haven't had it on the trail yet.
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  2. MeterPig

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    The KTM shop in Loveland recommended that I pick up another countershaft sprocket with one less tooth. The stock one is great for the track and the smaller is great for the trails.

    I know that the chain wears faster with the smaller tooth but with my small amount of riding per year...that isn't going to be an issue long-term.
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  3. RideFreak

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    I've heard with the Mule treatment you can get away with some crazy tall gearing.

    Feathering the clutch seems to be pretty normal on the 300 and comes naturally after riding it awhile, I like the engagement, pretty linear and it's like a temporary instant downshift to pop you over an obsticle. I got a brand new autoclutch sitting on the bench, it works so well right now I'm hesatant to swap it in.
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  4. Blakebird

    Blakebird r-u-n-n-o-f-t

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    The KTM 200 XC I bought from Don has the Slavens mule treatment and is geared crazy short...and has an autoclutch. Should climb a wall.
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  5. thump_co

    thump_co ..ouch

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    What a difference a day can make. Went back out yesterday for a good 4 hours and we're getting along much better now.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mEE-knoLnY&hd=1

    It's still a little jumpy on the climbs but I talked to the PO and found out it has the red spring in (and the preload nut flush). He's going to dig out the yellow and green for me, but he's betting based on his experience that I'll want to switch back to red within a month. I will say, when that thing hits, it hits hard. Right around 5m30s & 6m20s you can see me just getting into it a bit. I think half the technique is just "go fast".

    Even with the red spring in, the very first climb yesterday went significantly better. It seems my brain rewired itself with my clutch hand. Combining that with a new MT43 on the rear, I'm feeling like I'll get the rest of the climbing dialed back in. It's also running 13/50 now so I have a couple teeth I could drop.

    Once it started coming together it felt like magic. The bike is so friggin light you can pick all kinds of goofy lines. I started looking for little stuff to jump and even with a total lack of winter conditioning I didn't want to stop all day. I ended up looping everything (except Spruce) several times and coming down in the dark.
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  6. HellSickle

    HellSickle Scone Rider

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    So...... Are you gonna change your handle to ringding_co now? :deal
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  7. thump_co

    thump_co ..ouch

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    As long as I still have the 450 I get to keep it. When riding the 300 I'll be incognito.. like I'm on a spy bike.
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  8. silverboy

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    I don't know dude, it sounds like a small child's toy!
    Doesn't all that buzzing get annoying?
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  9. thump_co

    thump_co ..ouch

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    Missed this earlier. Plain ole' mechanical. Mine's an 06, before all that hydraulic jazz. Unfortunately it seems the PO cross threaded the spring retainer cap last time it was apart.

    It rides like one too. A very fun child's toy.
    Guess I'll just have to stay far enough ahead to not bother you with the noise :D
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  10. Gordy

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    I love my '09 300! Still!!!

    I have done a few things to it that helped.

    Knarly pipe
    JD jetting kit
    Tubliss "tubes"
    Extra rear wheel with a trials tire mounted for easy swaps from knobs>trials
    2 teeth up on the rear
    Slavens suspension
    Guts seat
    Mapping switch on the bars
    Recluse Core EXP
    Clear tank (3.1?)
    Scotts stabilizer

    Maybe a few other things that I can't remember, like shark fins and stuff. :scratch

    This bike will rip in the desert and climb technical stuff all day.:D

    I really can't think of anything else that will do what all the 300 will.

    This bike is known for it's stump pulling torque and ability to chug without stalling.
    If your bike is not pulling like a train at low revs, it is probably jetting and not the PV setting.
    Try setting the PV back to stock and work on the jetting before you go all crazy with the spings and pre-load.

    The maintenance is practically non-existant. I have around 200 hours on mine and have changed the plug once. Still on the stock piston and it has plenty of compression and makes no noise, so I'm not worried about that either.

    The idea of swapping in a 6 sp has my interest and may do that next year. :dunno
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  11. RideFreak

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    I just put the Knarly on mine, I like the way it broadens the midrange, I'm shifting less now.

    In the Dez the 13/50 pulls the sand great and also works well on tight ST but if it's open terrain or connecting trails I'm reachin for another gear allot of the time, doesn't help that I tend to ride it below the PB allot. Things seem to get a little crazy when ya start hitting the pipe hard :lol3

    I've been running a 13/49, it's a little gappy in the sand but it pulls the long stretches without buzzin too bad. At $750 the 6sp might be nice, gives ya a little of both worlds.
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  12. HellSickle

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    You might want to start thinking about a fresh piston for peace of mind. KTM has a slightly oversize piston that folks typically put in on the first rebuild.

    Another good upgrade on older 300's: VForce reeds. I believe that KTM puts these in new 2-strokes now. Older models have the reeds superceded with VForce.

    Inspect reeds regularly and replace pedals whenever you are doing the top end.

    The DR is now off the bike bench. The 300 gets torn down this weekend. 350 hours. Time for a new piston, replace the Rekluse throw out bearing & thrust plate, new reeds.
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  13. thump_co

    thump_co ..ouch

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    I think the 09's have the VForce. At least mine has VFORCE3 printed on it.. don't think it was a PO upgrade.
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  14. HellSickle

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    My '06 didn't, but the factory part was superceded with a VForce by '08.
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  15. Wannabeeuro

    Wannabeeuro Tuner chic

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    My 07 has the V force reeds, I think that they came stock.

    And I now have every thing Gordy's has as well. Love it.
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  16. Gordy

    Gordy Team Listo

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    Are you running the auto-clutch?

    I have had mine since day one and am thinking about taking it off to try it for a while. :dunno

    Let's get a six-speed! :freaky


    :lol3
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  17. thump_co

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    What's your final drive? (I'm not sure what stock is.)
    Haven't played with the mapping yet. Is the difference significant (enough to warrant getting the bar switch)?
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  18. thump_co

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    Can anyone with an 07-09 300 tell me what the width is for the stock Neken bars? The PO cut these down (and regretted it). I have a take off replacement pair I'm picking up on ebay, but the seller isn't sure if they're cut as well. Can't seem to find a spec for them.
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  19. Shuffler

    Shuffler Hommes Grande

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    I think they were 33" stock...I'm at 32" and seem to recall cutting 1/2" off each end...now I wish I hadn't because it's caused fitment/rotation issues with the buttons and levers.

    Probably going to pony up for some Flexx bars at some point this season.
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  20. RideFreak

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    My bars are 31 3/4", I thought they were stock but looking at Shuffler's post I guess they've been cut too, I have a little trouble fitting everything on them also.


    Stock gearing is 13/50

    I've got the map switch, not sure if it's really worth it, mine stays on the aggressive map, once in awhile I notice the big bikes pulling me in the straits and I realize I've hit the switch inadvertently :eek1 We don't ride mud here, supposedly it's good for really slick situations like mud & snow.

    Some riders complain of "whiskey throttle", lack of throttle control when the 300 has kicked their ass :lol3 and like the map switch for that, I say man up or get an XR200.
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