KTM 525 EXC as an Adventure Bike

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Karnage, Jan 31, 2007.

  1. dentvet

    dentvet Long timer

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Oddometer:
    1,375
    Location:
    hunt country virginia
    Dual sport armory has coyote for $313.


    ps: bigfella in cambodia needs a christini setup
  2. blake716

    blake716 nine toes

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2008
    Oddometer:
    13,622
    Location:
    Baton Rouge, La.
    I PM'd the guy, but never got a response back. I ordered a whole bunch of stuff last night, but held off on the bag for now.
    I'm really not in a hurry, so I'll shop around for a used one for a few weeks.
    If I can't find one, I'm just going to buy a new Coyote.
  3. selaznog

    selaznog Avoiding pavement

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2007
    Oddometer:
    3,055
    Location:
    Rt 66 & The Rio Grande
    I find that my Coyote isn't big enough for camping. I simply strap on an REI drybag (holds a sleeping bag, camp pillow and very small tent) and I'm good to go. In the pic below it was monsoon season, so I also have a small bag with rain gear attached.

    [​IMG]
  4. team ftb

    team ftb Befuddled Adventurer

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2006
    Oddometer:
    1,774
    Location:
    Lost in the jungles of Thailand
    What works better?? Kind of like blonde's or brunettes I think. It's personal criteria that should guide your choice. Case in point. Big Fella is taking my 525 through the same tracks and trails that I did last year, he has the Great Basin and I use the Coyote. Both work for our intended needs. I think choice is dependent on your own packing style. We each differ in what we deem needed and vital for a trip. We both have packed for self sufficient travel, multi weeks through SEA off road and have the clothes and gear for monsoon rains. What ends up in our respective bags most likely is not identical, however we have worked out that it addresses each of our needs.

    I know when I first began dirt biking on multi week trips my load was a lot larger than what it is now.

    This was what my typical load looked like for camping and cooking out in the bush when I started on the KTM. The Coyote is filled along with a strap on Therma Rest.

    [​IMG]



    A few years later and my last trip on the 525 where I was cooking and camping the load had been trimmed down quite a bit. Most of the load is carried in the lower sides of the Coyote and hardly any on top of the seat.

    [​IMG]


    The gear packed inside has to cope with the same conditions yet you can see there is a reduced packing volume in the second pic due to experience teaching me to par down.

    I have camping gear, cooking gear, rain gear, food, water, clothes, water filter, saw, tire tools, tools, diabetic supplies, blah, blah in both pics. Yet they pack into vary different sizes. We are all different on what we deem vital to pack for our trips and its this mindset that will determine what size bag you can cram your stuff into. What works for me may not indeed work for you. As evidenced by Selzanog finding the Coyote not being big enough for his camping needs.

    For Big Fella the Great Basin isn'tt even big enough. Though if you've seen the size of the bastard you'll understand why. I think I could sleep in his boots:lol3.

    [​IMG]


    There is no right or wrong answer on what GL bag is better. Its taking into account your packing tendencies and evaluating your packing list to see what bag will fit your needs.

    Best of luck.
  5. The Bigfella

    The Bigfella Big Adventurer

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2010
    Oddometer:
    2,517
    Location:
    One of the Burj's
    Mine is the Great Basin. I quite like it. I slurped plenty of seam sealer in there and its been pretty good. Have only ever had a little bit of water get in. I pack my clothes and black spaghetti in dry bags just in case though. Justin, as he's outlined above, used to ride this bike with the Coyote.

    Yeah... I'm carrying more. I'm willing to bet my medical kit is bigger... I've got, IIRC, 5 Epipens (adrenaline) in there... anyone who has had an anaphylaxis attack before would do the same. Its that or die. Yeah... I'm finding stuff that I could ditch and probably will when I come back next time, but I'm packing for both cities and remote areas. I've got one set of shirt, socks, undies too many, based on this trip so far, I haven't used my one man mosquito net or my groundsheet (I walked 5km to a village after I drowned the bike... otherwise I would have). A pair of my size 12 (48) shoes takes up some space. I'm carrying 4 spare tubes... have had a few flats... 3, sometimes 4 litres of oil.... which I've needed when I drowned the bike. I've got too much black spaghetti... I've got a Netbook, DSLR, Point & Shoot, Video, phone, Iridium (I could do without it), SPOT and GPS. Add chargers and cables and it gets bulky.

    When I get to the end of this part of the trip I might make two piles... used and not used and take a photo. Difficulty there is things like spares and tools. I'm sure as hell under-done with spares. I need more wheel bearings and seals, more brake pads.. a pair of rotors would be nice,,,, and so on. I had a delay of several days waiting for wheel bearings and even then had to spend a day on buses going to intercept them in another town. Another is the raincoat... I've not used it, but its my sort-of space blanket in case I got stuck up high somewhere.... to keep me warm. I'd pack it again... but I don't wear rain gear here. I've only used my Steripen twice. Not often enough as it turned out, and I spent a week shitting through the eye of a needle. I'd take it again... and make it more accessible in the pack. I've been short on water a couple of times... quite dehydrated... 22 hours between pisses dehydrated.

    I wish I'd brought my Wolfman tube on this part of the trip... it sits nicely on top of the GL.... and it can be packed light. Heavy stuff... tools, tubes, oil - goes down low. Light stuff up high.
  6. blake716

    blake716 nine toes

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2008
    Oddometer:
    13,622
    Location:
    Baton Rouge, La.
    Damn, you're ready for the apocalypse. :lol3

    I plan to pack 1 extra set of clothes (pants or shorts, depending on season), 2 extra sets of socks and underwear,
    light waterproof outerwear, flip flops or shoes, lighters, bug spray, first aid kit, tape, tie wire, folding saw,
    2 spare tubes, a minimal amount of tool, light sleeping bag and bivy.
    I'm thinking I could put the sleeping bag in one of those GL dry bags if I we did a trip where we're camping instead of getting a room somewhere.

    Sounds like the Coyote is right for me.
  7. The Bigfella

    The Bigfella Big Adventurer

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2010
    Oddometer:
    2,517
    Location:
    One of the Burj's
    Yeah... but I left home on July 29th.... 2011.

    Yeah, I've paid a visit home 3 times now... but last one was in June. I just wish I'd got some new boots while I was home... I'm carrying a fair bit of gaffer tape these days....

    [​IMG]
  8. herrhelmet

    herrhelmet A Serious Man

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2008
    Oddometer:
    2,367
    Location:
    USA West
    Haven't seen any KTM MXE as an adventure bike threads, so I dump this crap here....

    Registered this in Utah. Got a cheapo headlight that works just great from eBay and fabbed a iPhone holder for the speedo app. And Done. Kinda street legal.

    Has a Baja Designs side tank 1.5 gal, so 200 mile range. Tested in Death Valley.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Cheap basterds don't just own KLRs. They improvise.
  9. Rabbot

    Rabbot rain+superbike=adventure

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2008
    Oddometer:
    563
    Location:
    Asheville NC
    I have a Great Basin Bag, Fits the EXC perfectly. Holds an ample amount of gear for extended trips, Tent goes in a dry bag on top.
  10. clapped_r6

    clapped_r6 The Spoad Warrior

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2006
    Oddometer:
    2,744
    Location:
    Ridgefield, WA
    anybody have a pic of their "alternative" case vent routing?

    my vent hose seems to want to interfere with where the fan wants to go, and also looks a little pinched where it goes by the head.

    my thought is to route it lower and back into the carb, and not have it go along the frame spine.

    reinventing the wheel?
  11. Rufjeep

    Rufjeep Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2008
    Oddometer:
    398
    Location:
    Signal Mountain, TN
    Nice MXC. I've got an MXC, too. I've actually got an EXC tranny sitting on the bench, but the MXC box has grown on me (my bike doesn't see much road use).
  12. herrhelmet

    herrhelmet A Serious Man

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2008
    Oddometer:
    2,367
    Location:
    USA West

    Here's what I did. I tried a few different ways. (The PO had it running straight up with an K&N style filter on it puking out everywhere.) So far no problems after 2,500+ miles. Zip tied near the spark plug and it doesn't ever get cooked by the exhaust.

    [​IMG]
  13. The Bigfella

    The Bigfella Big Adventurer

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2010
    Oddometer:
    2,517
    Location:
    One of the Burj's
    Couple of issues with the 570 lately... been getting them sorted.

    I think I've done 4,000km since leaving Chiang Mai, about 100 hours. I just put the 4th axle load of wheel bearings in this morning.... replacing the Koyo Japanese bearings that were the first to go, up near Nakia in Laos. They'd loosened up to a fair old wobble when you grabbed the front wheel. Not sure of the distance... maybe 1,000 miles. Not being able to source new seals when I did them last time didn't help. Here's the spacer tube... covered in mud

    [​IMG]

    I think its time for new spacers too... there's wear on this one

    [​IMG]

    I couldn't source more Japanese bearings, but I'd have to think Korean are better than Chinese? I'm carrying spare Chinese bearings that I'll only use if I have to. The good news is I sourced and installed new seals with these bearings - and have new rear seals for when I next do the rear bearings. The rears (1 x Japanese and 1 x Chinese) that I fitted in Attapeu were shot at 250 km... well, the Chinese one was, but I didn't replace them with 2 x Chinese bearings until I got to around 500km from there. Great eh? This mud is tough.

    I got the bike washed here in Phnom Penh. They got a bit enthusiastic

    [​IMG]

    and killed off the sidestand

    [​IMG]

    They welded it up, but it only lasted a day. I came out from a massage and found the bike leaning on a wall. My guess is someone climbed on and the weakened/welded sidestand snapped.

    That raises an issue I've covered over on OC in the past. Welding aluminium... specifically, the rear subframe on the Super Enduros. I built a carbon fibre rear rack for my SE because those subframes have a reputation for cracking at a place where its drilled for a bolt. My subframe is still solid. Many choose to weld them. Not a good move... welding aluminium really weakens it.... and trying to get it properly tempered even at home is nigh on impossible... and KTM aren't about to tell us what its tempered to. So... think about that if you are tempted to weld your subframe (yeah the 525's is cracked where they all crack.... I'll look at a solution there another year)

    Back to the sidestand. She's welded up again... and I'm warning folks about climbing on...

    [​IMG]

    Had to use a different bolt after this... head ground down to clear the spring.

    Gotta keep an eye on your bike in the shops here. Glad it wasn't my forks being serviced here while the bolt got ground down

    [​IMG]

    and the stand got "adjusted"

    [​IMG]

    I had one of the guys washing out the air filter... and I turned around to see him with an air hose, blowing the dirt in. Um, hang on mate... why don't we blow it out... not in? He got the message.

    Hopefully I'm back on the road again tomorrow... once this green rocket propelled stuff that keeps ejecting from my body disappears. I'm just doing an easy run to Siem Reap and tootling around there for a week or so before storing the bike there for 4 months or so. I'll come back with brakes, sprockets, etc for some more riding in the New Year.
  14. blake716

    blake716 nine toes

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2008
    Oddometer:
    13,622
    Location:
    Baton Rouge, La.
    Is anyone running the JD jet kit at sea level in warm temps? If so, which needle and clip position do you use?

    I just got the kit yesterday. I don't have the instructions with me now, but if I remember correctly, it says for me to use the red needle with the clip in the 5th position from the top.
    I saw somewhere else on the instructions that said the blue needle was for high altitude/higher temps and the red needle was for low altitude/cooler temps, so I'm not exactly sure what I should do with the needle. I guess I should just start off with red like JD recomends, then go from there.
    I'm at sea level with higher temps. Of course, it's starting to get a little cooler now, mid to upper 80's.
    I should've learned how to jet a bike by now.

    I started racing when I was 10, but I always had someone set up my bike. After a few years of not riding, I just started again this year, but my guy now lives 300 miles from me. I know, I suck. I should've paid attention. I know how to work on my bikes, but properly setting up suspension and jetting is still greek to me. I can get close, buy my "guy" was awesome. He could watch me ride and set up the suspenison perfectly.
  15. Indy Unlimited

    Indy Unlimited Long timer

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2007
    Oddometer:
    1,480
    Location:
    Parker, CO
    I would use the red needle in clip #4 from the top.
    Blue needle is for colder weather. Red needle is for hotter weather.
  16. blake716

    blake716 nine toes

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2008
    Oddometer:
    13,622
    Location:
    Baton Rouge, La.
    Okay, I had that bass ackwards.:D

    I'm goint to install the kit when I get off of work today.

    What about the accelerator pump o-ring.....should I use the thick or thin o-ring?
  17. clapped_r6

    clapped_r6 The Spoad Warrior

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2006
    Oddometer:
    2,744
    Location:
    Ridgefield, WA
    thanks. i think i'll route mine like that, i need the real estate!
  18. kito

    kito Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2009
    Oddometer:
    281
    Location:
    cheshire , England
    I am liking the look of getting a EXC to DS with but I have been wanting to know is the any cheeper options than the $400 HT cooler of increasing the oil capacity ? Is putting the oil through the frame an option like on the husaburg 570 ??
    thanks kito
  19. DRjoe

    DRjoe Long timer

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2007
    Oddometer:
    5,330
    Location:
    Sunshine coast qld
    Well I did a stupid thing and snapped my kick start lever at the weekend.
    Does anyone have a spare they want to sell?

    Cheers

    Joe
  20. dentvet

    dentvet Long timer

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Oddometer:
    1,375
    Location:
    hunt country virginia
    hey joe, i have a spare but am in the wrong hemisphere:deal I'll give it to you but the shipping might be more than its worth locally