KTM 525 EXC as an Adventure Bike

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Karnage, Jan 31, 2007.

  1. Brtp4

    Brtp4 Powdercoat it.

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    Still getting used to it and filling out my opinion. The first thing I clearly noticed is the stability in loose stuff. Our fireroads here have patches that are hard, and patches that have deep powder on them. On my other bikes hitting that powdery stuff is hairball and feels like the front will knife and pitch me. With the 18s it is a cakewalk.

    Second thing i noticed is how planted the front feels, and the fact that it always gives a lot of feedback. Never feels like it is going away, nor like I cannot go where I want. It is very confidence inspiring.

    Only in the last 1 or 2 rides have I started to pick up heaviness of steering. I am getting a little turned off by the weight of the bike on ST, and some of that may be the triples (or....the weight). On the last ride I kept checking the damper setting and at one point stopped to check if the cable routing was binding the triples. I think that is the heaviness that people describe.

    I have a set of 14s and plan on trying them at some point. They are so much shorter that I imagine the difference will not be subtle.

    Has anyone directly compared a 450 RFS to a 400 on singletrack? Wondering if the difference is noticeable or subtle. I do not care so much about the power, I want something that turns better.

    BP
  2. lamotovita

    lamotovita DAMN SNOWBIRD!

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    [QUOTE="Brtp4, post: 33288398, member: 38859"

    Has anyone directly compared a 450 RFS to a 400 on singletrack? Wondering if the difference is noticeable or subtle. I do not care so much about the power, I want something that turns better.

    BP[/QUOTE]

    I have, extensively. At the lower rpm that I trail ride at the alleged gyro effect was never noticeable. The lower power output of the 400 is a little easier to control in the tight stuff though.
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  3. renogeorge

    renogeorge Let's ride!!

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    It's been a few years. But I don't remember my 400 turning much if any better than comparable framed 450. 450 to 525 difference was noticeable to me. FWIW
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  4. bpowa

    bpowa Been here awhile

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    I hear you on the heaviness.. on paper it was not too much heavier than my old crf250x. but there is a notable difference.. I didn't really feel it until i did the desert100. I felt I would have done a lot better on the 250x and had more fun than exhaustion. I love the 525 for what it is.. supermoto and dual sport rides. I will have to see what type of riding i enjoy more next year. I have a SS streetbike. and can only have 2.. If i sold one it would have to be the 525 first. Im thinking of its replacement and have my eye on a ktm 250xc; that will take care of the heaviness.
  5. Brtp4

    Brtp4 Powdercoat it.

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    It is most unmanageable entering turns. The front wheel feels planted but it is hard to start getting the bike turned. I need to ditch the XC tank for a bit and see how different that is.

    BP
  6. Ned1

    Ned1 Lend Me Yu Choppa

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    My 525 handles like a dump truck compared to my 400 which also handles like a dump truck compared to the little smoker bikes both of these bikes superceded. That said, I steer sooner and enjoy the bikes for what they are... fun!
  7. Rufjeep

    Rufjeep Been here awhile

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    I've got a 450xc, which is a short stroke motor like the 400, and it feels more nimble to me than my 525 did...but that may just be because I think it's supposed to.
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  8. Grreatdog

    Grreatdog Long timer

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    Maybe I don't notice steering issues with my 525 because I was on a 640E. If nothing else, riding that locomotive taught me how to steer with the throttle.
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  9. lamotovita

    lamotovita DAMN SNOWBIRD!

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    The guy with the 400 that I traded on and off with was an enthusiastic, but not very experienced, rider. He believed that his 400 turned and flicked easier than my 450, I think he read it on the internet. I thought the 400 was easier to ride, but only because of the softer power delivery.
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  10. GR0NK

    GR0NK Got some screws loose!

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    Funny how that works. When I first got my 525 I thought it steered pretty good, until I bought my 250XCFw. :lol3
    The 525 is a barge. It still handles better than say an old-school Honda XR but it won't climb ruts like my 250 or any of the two-strokes.
    It is still a fun bike though. :freaky




    Sean :D
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  11. skibum69

    skibum69 slave to gravity

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    my 525 feels half the weight and steering feel than my 640A, but I still love my 640.
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  12. thirsty 1

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    I tried going through 446 pages of 525 and instead all I see are killer bikes. :wink: What kind of miles/hours before major engine/drivetrain work? Something about crank bearings @ 90 hrs? and some head work after several 1000 hours? I'm lookin' that's why i'ma askin'
  13. bryantjt

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    Oem valves are usually due for replacement at 2 or 300 hours. Bottom end 600 plus with regular maintenance.
  14. thirsty 1

    thirsty 1 Rider

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    Not as bad as I thought! Thanks for the info. :beer
  15. SierraCB

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    After riding sand all last week I realized I reallllly need a steering damper. What does everyone run? I'd like to keep my current bar setup but I don't NEED to either.
  16. gefr

    gefr Life is a trip

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    Hello there,
    I am looking for an unloved baja designs side tank for 525EXC. Can I find a used one anywhere?
    Thnx
  17. Guoseph

    Guoseph Been here awhile

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    So I think this one has been rehashed a few times already, but I currently have the IMS tank and it won't work with the fan kit I'm about to install.

    My 525 will most likely stay in Sumo form for street riding 90% of the time, and the stock tank is a bit too small around here when going on longer group rides. Thinking about the Safari, but it's a bit spendy. Also thinking about the big Acerbis, since I'm mostly riding this bike on the street. I do have the stock tank to swap to if the situation requires, such as taking the bike to a track day or occasional trail riding (I have another bike that will see more dirt).

    Thoughts? Hesitating on the Acerbis cuz it does look really big, even for street only riding. MXC tanks are hard to find now and I am trying to get black or neutral color (cuz I'm vain like that). Maybe the Clarke is enough fuel and a good cheap alternative.

    I guess another option is to get a bum tank, but for the money it might be easier to just swap the main tank.
  18. skibum69

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  19. bpowa

    bpowa Been here awhile

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    if you are in sumo form.. why would you need a fan.. the only times my water puked out is on a crawling rock bed. It never heated on sumo when I rode it.. Even on long forest roads. I have the IMS tank.. Sold the Clark; because it sits too high and looks ugly. The mxc tank is too heavy for sumo IMO.. Its good for multiday adventure riding.

    I have a scotts top mount.. but I dont feel its needed for dirt. Because I barely can go over 60mph. on trails.
  20. Guoseph

    Guoseph Been here awhile

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    At stop lights it overheats. I sometimes commute on it and always overheat in traffic waiting on lights.