KTM 530 EXCR- More better!

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by neduro, Apr 3, 2008.

  1. KMC1

    KMC1 There is no spoon.

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    The bike runs hot. If you go with the big 25L tank make sure you follow the advice from HG setting it up - and you will definitely want the hard parts fan as well.

    If I were to do it again, I might instead use a 3.4 gallon clockworks tank and plan my routes accordingly, carry a rotopax or whatnot.. Although having all that extra fuel really does make me feel safer when really outback.

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  2. windyhill

    windyhill Adventurer

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    From my experience with checking/changing the oil on mine, it seems that there is about 425ml in the stator cover, 75ml in the crank cavity, and 100ml in the filter cavity.
  3. Hodakaguy

    Hodakaguy NorthWest Adventure Rider

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    +1 on the fan kit with any tank

    I've never had any cooling issues with the large Accerbis desert tank, the wings on the tank are really good at scooping up air to the rads. I have several friends that have the same tanks and don't run the heat shielding underneath like I do and they haven't had any issues so far either....although I like to fail on the safe side :-)

    For my style of NV riding the large tank is an absolute must in my mind. When traveling like this even the best planning can change and leave you in a low fuel situation. Most of the time we have lots of fuel left in the tank when we hit the next fuel stop but once in a while a fuel station is out of fuel or weather gets nasty and you end up burning more fuel than anticipated. This happened to us last year going from Soldier Meadows to Gerlach, we were running a high two track route and the weather turned nasty causing the ground to become sticky clay and really slowed us down. We arrived in Gerlach way later than planned with only a inch or so of fuel remaining in the big desert tanks! :eek1

    You could run a smaller tank like a clockworks unit but to get the needed fuel capacity you'd have to carry Rotopacks on the back etc like you mentioned. I like the fuel where the tank is so it has the least effect on handling and less likely to get damaged in a crash, plus when camping off the bike the rear gets pretty crowded with camp gear.

    Setting up the suspension properly to handle the extra weight really helps as well with the big tanks.

    Hodakaguy
  4. davesupreme

    davesupreme grand poobah

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    i gotta RFS bike, but am interested in setting it up for some out-west stuff like 'yer talkin' about....gotta 6 gal. Acerbis tank yet to be installed....

    could you say how much you had to go up on the spring rates for all the extra gas/camping/traveling stuff weight?...

    my 450 is set up pretty good for me now just for Fla. woods/sand riding, .50 fronts, and 10.0 rear.... sag is right on, turns nice.... i'm probably 190 nekkid, and i wear alotta gear, so i gotta be 210 or more geared up.....

    thanks.....
  5. KMC1

    KMC1 There is no spoon.

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    Man, I am struggling with the heat issue. Part of the issue is of course that it has been HOT in Utah this summer....it's basically been 100 degrees everyday since June this year. Part of the problem - or maybe THE problem, is that I am a big guy...over 300lbs with full gear on....:eek1.....so I think I probably put a *little* more demands on the cooling system than your average 165lb MX rider.... :D

    So far though, using the tricks from your build, it's gotten a LOT better.

    I totally agree with you on the bigger tank issue. I like to use my rotopax carrier to bring water instead of having to carry it all in the camel back. I don't know how some of the guys are able to stay hydrated on the longer rides where I've filled up my camelback like 3 or 4 times to their 1. :huh
  6. Hayduke

    Hayduke ///SAFETY THIRD/// Super Moderator

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    First day back on my 530 since I broke my thumb in June. Damn, I love this thing!

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  7. Hodakaguy

    Hodakaguy NorthWest Adventure Rider

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    When I sold my 530 I also sold him the extra springs that went with it....and I didn't write down the rates I was using :baldy. When I set up my last 530 for desert trips I called Slavens and talked to him on the phone, told him how I'd be riding and the weight of all my combined riding gear, camping equipment and larger tank, he told me the spring rate i should buy and I went with his recommendations. The springs I had worked great fully loaded with gear and I was getting proper sag when loaded up for a long trip....guess I need to weigh my gear and start over now to get ready for our trips next summer.

    Hodakaguy
  8. Hodakaguy

    Hodakaguy NorthWest Adventure Rider

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    Are your running the Thermostat in your bike? I run one in mine still but I've read where removing it does help quite a bit by giving more flow through the radiators. If your jetted properly and your having heating problems you might try removing the thermostat, installing the hard parts high flow pump and even running a set of aftermarket Fluidyne Radiators.

    Are you running a catch can on the overflow tube from the radiator?

    Hodakaguy



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  9. Beardoge

    Beardoge Been here awhile

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    Okay I've gotten some real good opinions on tanks and luggage. Probably the last but probably the most important, what seats or seat pads are you guys using ?

    The seat is so damn hard on this thing no way would I be able to ride days on end with this thing !
  10. KMC1

    KMC1 There is no spoon.

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    Some grea ideas!
    Some I've done, some I haven't.
    TStat - yes. Seems to be working as it turns the fan on and off.
    Jetting - running the JD kit - it seems a bit cold blooded however, so maybe a bit lean. Full desmogged and FMF Q4 Ti.
    Waterless coolant - this really helps keep from boiling. Works awesome.
    Stock radiators with a catch bottle plumbed to next to the air filter. (It had a couple times pumped coolant to the bottle)
    Stock water pump.
  11. KMC1

    KMC1 There is no spoon.

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    There's a bunc. Renazco is popular, seat concepts. Even just adding some foam.

    Try this one.
  12. Foot dragger

    Foot dragger singletracker

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    From what Ive seen,even slightly lean jetting makes a good deal more heat. Ive ridden next to a friend on his EPA jetted(FI) 2012 500 EXCR and his bike was boiling water out on every climb on a hot day,my 530 is jetted on the rich side especially on the pilot jet, and mine didnt boil any water out.
  13. Hodakaguy

    Hodakaguy NorthWest Adventure Rider

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    Yep make sure your jetting is spot on or slightly on the rich side.

    I think your referring to the Thermo Switch that controls the fan. You can also remove the engine thermostat completely which I've read helps improve cooling in hot climates. You can bypass the thermostat with a SAMCO hose kit (CLICK HERE) or a Blais Racing adaptor (CLICK HERE).

    On the thermo switch look to see what temp your switch is (It's stamped on one of the flats where it screws in to the rad), they are available in a couple temp ranges... 95/90 (203F on /194 off) or 100/95 (212F on /203F off). I usually run the higher temp range just so the fan doesn't cycle as much but if your having heating issues you might want to run the lower switch so the fan kicks on earlier to help slow the temp climb.

    Hodakaguy
  14. Hodakaguy

    Hodakaguy NorthWest Adventure Rider

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    I run the Enduro Engineering Standard/Standard and it's been really good, the edges are rounded and it's a ton more comfortable than the oem seat.

    That said I would like to try a seat concepts seat....I talked to several people that really like them.

    Hodakaguy
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    Hodakaguy NorthWest Adventure Rider

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    Nice pics :thumb

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    Honkey Cat Tailights Fade!

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    I called Jeff Slavens also, bought springs from him, has suspension revalved. What an amazing difference. I also had slavens send me some jets. Bike runs great from sea level to 13k feet.
  17. Archibald

    Archibald Seeking Neverland

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    What jets do that? Mine is good for 5 to 8K, but higher up she's not so happy... Like the mini fairing; whose is it?
  18. KMC1

    KMC1 There is no spoon.

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    Great guess HG :freaky I was mistakenly referring to the thermo switch. The thermostat is stock as well. Oops.....:D

    I'm going to out at the rally in steamboat this week with the bike, so I'll see how she runs this weekend before I go any further. Is starting to cool off a bit now, so I'm hoping I won't be having anymore issues with it.

    I seriously owe you a couple cold ones sometime man.... I really appreciate all your great advice! :freaky
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    Foot dragger singletracker

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    Ive got the Tall EE seat on my 200XCW,I like the cush on rough trails where standing would get me cleaned off the bike.

    The 530 has the suede Seat Concepts standard heidth seat,the suede cover makes friends feel inadequate when they see it.:D
    I do like the traction of the suede cover though,I thought the standard heidth seat was too firm at first but it has turned out to be pretty comfy.
    Either seat fits either bike,I like the modular KTM thinking.

    Stock seat blows.
  20. mflora98ss

    mflora98ss Dual Sportin'

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    I'm sportin' the Tall Enduro Engineering seat on my 530 and absolutely love it. Comparing the stock seat to the Enduro engineering seat is like sitting on dental floss compared to a pillow. Just got back from a dual sport ride yesterday and we went 120 miles and the only part of my body that isn't sore is my ass! Fricken love the 530 too. Flat out rips when you want it to, and can be ridden like a trials bike if need be.