KTM 530 EXCR- More better!

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by neduro, Apr 3, 2008.

  1. neduro

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    Euro KTM part. Available from Enduro Engineering or any good KTM shop.
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  2. emerson.biguns

    emerson.biguns All idiot, no savant

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    Thanks!


    Next time could you get back to me a little quicker. That three minutes I was waiting nearly killed me.


    :rofl



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  3. emerson.biguns

    emerson.biguns All idiot, no savant

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    Ned,

    A quick question about the EE light setup. It swaps out the front as well. Looks like it uses an H4(?) bulb. Does that get you a lot better light up front? Was it worth the $200? Would you do it again?

    Thanks.


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  4. neduro

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    The front light is identical to the stock piece- no reason to change. If you have an on-the-ball dealer, he can order just the tail assembly.

    If you don't have an on the ball dealer, call KTM Aspen @ 970.963.6099 and tell them I sent you. They know the parts to order.
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  5. jeel

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    Here's a pic of our 2 08 450s. Since we have added...

    Scotts dampers
    Rekluse Pros (yes I am a cheater)
    Factory Connection susp
    BDP rad guards
    rad fans
    EE skid plates
    Cycra BBs
    TM chain guides
    Jetted
    TT Stators
    7 batts
    EE slave guards
    One had all blacked out plastic, other is combo of orange/black
    Maxxis SI front, IT rear
    Iron Man sprockets 13/50
    DID Xring chains (hated the stocker)

    That is all I can think of. Love the bike, but hate the airbox design...it gets very wet up here in CT, and the side cover is not air tight. Other than that, they have been great.

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  6. Para504

    Para504 Spam, Spam, bacon & Spam!

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    You may want to see if the airbox cover is seated properly. I didn't have any issues with mine (NETRA riding).
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  7. jeel

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    Really? I ride/race Netra too. Just about all of us in my club are having the same issue where the rear fender and airbox overlap. But Pachaug has a LOT of water.

    Every wet Netra event I attend, I see everyone (myself included) duct taping this area just in case. Maybe we're all just nuts, lol!

    Next time I'm at the shop, I try on another cover...maybe ours were bad molds or something.
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  8. mookymoo

    mookymoo Mookish Mook

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    Put some of that radiator foam at the back - should slow the ingress of water/mud

    http://www.ktmforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=27007
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  9. neduro

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    A few more updates:

    1) I installed the Dirttricks timing chain tensioner. I took many beautiful photos of the stock part and upgraded one, but you'll have to trust me on that, because I can't find them for the life of me and I'm not taking it apart to repeat the process.

    Basically, the stock part uses oil pressure alone to maintain pressure on the timing chain, where the dirt tricks part uses a ratcheting mechanism assisted by oil, but not dependent on it.

    http://dirttricks.com/timing_chain_tensioner.htm

    On my 08, and occasionally on my 09, I would get a bunch of timing noise on startup or idle, which never amounted to a problem but sure doesn't seem right. Since installing this part, the bike has been totally quiet. Very nice.

    2) I gave in and bought another Akrapovic pipe. It sounds really nice, a bit quieter than the stock pipe with the bung cut out, and it clearly flows better and allows the engine to run much more freely. Very nice part.

    3) On a whim, I decided to race an enduro, and my 300 was in pieces for some upgrades I'm doing. So, despite the fact that the enduro was very tight and technical, I took the 530.

    I've done nothing to the suspension other than work out the best bleed settings I could and install a 7.6 kg/mm spring in place of the stock 7.2 for my 200lbs. I haven't raced in 2 years, I've been a lazy trailrider instead, and the place we were racing (Walsenburg, CO) is a gnarly rockpile that puts suspension and technique to the test. Needless to say I was concerned whether I could maintain A-pace on the 530, especially in such a tight area.

    Long story short, the bike rocked. It worked really well and I wound up here:

    [​IMG]

    I would have won 4 stroke A, but oh well... :deal

    The point is, I'm pretty impressed by a bike that, with a few minor upgrades (gearing, jetting, muffler) can run a good A pace, or do the Trans America Trail, or commute to work, or pretty much any other idea you can come up with that takes 2 wheels.

    I really like this bike!
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  10. JayBo1

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    Great feedback neduro - and congratulations on a fine performance. I'm sure the bike made a difference but we both know your effort accounted for much of the result! Good on ya!
    I also am very happy with the DirtTricks cam chain tensioner. Mine went in right from new so I can't compare before and after on my bike but I've heard a few 530's with the standard tensioner and they are very rattly when first started. Mine is beaut quiet.
    They are a great all round dirtbike aren't they!
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  11. teti

    teti especie en extincion ®

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    muy buenos todos sus aportes son de mucha utilidad ,

    cuantas horas duran los pistones y aros ? cada cuanto cambian el conjunto ?

    soy el feliz poseedor de una 530 -09 con 58 horas y 3400 km hasta ahora todo ok

    gracias y saludos atte

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  12. Bungholio

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    Hypothetical question of a real situation: I am looking at getting a 2008 530EXC for $7299 +T&L along with the R2R kit. Is the 2009 model improved enough to fork over the extra cash to get it instead of the 2008? My use will be for casual fun riding, no racing except against myself. Inquiring minds want to know. Know that your answer will greatly influence my purchase decision.
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  13. pampaX

    pampaX Been here awhile

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    Teti says (if guys you don't mind my translating),
    ...God day, very good info and very usefull

    How long (hours) do pistons and rings last? How often do you change the set?

    I'm the happy owner of a 530 '09 with 58 hours and 3400K so far all good .

    Thanks and regards
    ....
    "

    PampaX

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  14. neduro

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    IMO, the 2008 suspension was not great out of the box, but the components are essentially the same as the 2009 (there are some refinements to coatings and wall thicknesses, etc, but these are subtle in their effects). So, a competent tuner can make an 08 work basically as well as an 09 for the price of a revalve.

    The other substantial update I'm aware of is piston rings, I believe the 2009 has updated parts in that department. Again, this is not a particularly costly thing to address should it become necessary.

    I would say, go for the 08, and when you're ready, send the suspension to superplush or whatever vendor your research leads you to, and you won't be sorry!
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  15. neduro

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    Much less frequently than the book would have you believe! :deal

    I think if the bike burns substantial oil, or has low compression, the rings are the first thing I would look at. To my knowledge, that's likely at least a couple hundred hours if you never allow an air leak (from a vacuum line or otherwise) and are good with your air filters.
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  16. B.Curvin

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    Mornin Brother Ned.

    Emerson Biguns (sp?) sold his 530 partially because of the vibes.

    I've ridden 640s and know they're paint shakers.

    But how is the 530 compared to say an XR650R? You had an XR-R in the

    past, I currently have one. Also, will the low end of the 530 keep me happy

    after the tractor like XR? I live and ride east coast. I love being able to let

    the revs on the XR die down to nothing while making a 90* left up and over

    a rock covered hill, and never touch the clutch. Just a tiny blip and boom,

    you're up and over.

    TIA.
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  17. neduro

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    IMO, at least as smooth as the XR (if one was vibey, there's something wrong, mine have both been very nice, nothing like LC4's which I despise), and they make plenty of grunt (and plenty of overrev, and plenty of everything else). If you need more power than a 530 offers, you're doing it wrong. :-)

    The only thing an XR does better than a 530 is get ignored. 530's aren't maintenance whores, but I know an XRR will go 20-30k miles with minimal maintenance because I've done it. The 530 will have been through more oil changes, and probably a piston and rings and maybe valves in that same time. You don't get more power and 50lbs less weight without some tradeoff.



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  18. Bungholio

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    Have now found a dealer with several 2009 530EXC for $7999. Now what do I do???!!!
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  19. Para504

    Para504 Spam, Spam, bacon & Spam!

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    Dude, go with the '09 if you're split about it; sounds like a good price to me & worth the difference compared to your '08 quote. Piggybacking on Neduro's post, my '08 EXC with Factory Connection suspension wasn't as good as the stock '09. Also, there are some minor refinements that improved on my gripes about the '08s (i.e. easier starting)...
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  20. Bungholio

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    Bought the 2009, should have this weekend. WOOHOO!!!:clap:rofl