KTM 620 Adventure E/GS Adventure History

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  1. hondahawkrider

    hondahawkrider DAMN Rider/Motardian

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    I am pretty certain the original tanks used in the Dakar and such were purple... I seriously doubt anyone would go to the trouble to paint one THAT color of purple - less they liked the Barney Jokes..
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  2. hondahawkrider

    hondahawkrider DAMN Rider/Motardian

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    Is this the bike you are looking at ??? or just one you used as an example.... I know I have seen this bike posted elsewhere on the site - probably looking at info on rear tanks....
    Rear tanks usually mean it's a Rallye and a not a Adventure - or someone has retrofitted rear tanks usually from the 99 model (parts are still available online - but it's approx $400 a tank x2).. It's what I am going to do once my 97 is back together and is in good shape - then I will shell out the funds, unless I find a cheaper option
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  3. Jan from Finland

    Jan from Finland Been here awhile

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    1995 Dakar rally bike according to http://www.rallye-tenere.net!

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  5. hondahawkrider

    hondahawkrider DAMN Rider/Motardian

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    LOL - looks like a standard lc4 with 27l tank....I am sure there were many differences between in the rxc of the day, but it's still cool to me - but what an FUGLY shade of purple (the barney mobile)..

    Hmmm.. Makes me wonder why the 97 ADV had low pipes... You can see from the rally tenere pics that it's got the high pipe in back AND the hecktank that fit over the rear tail... I thought the 97 got the low pipes due to the beefier subframe for number plate rear tanks... It makes no sense to me to make a low pipe model (low pipes have issues) - if they could have used the hecktank to fit over em.... :huh? Anyone know a bit more....
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  6. Donkey Hotey

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    Man, I gotta' get caught up on this thread. I just remembered that Godspeed PMd me when he was coming through LA to pick those bikes up.

    The Heck tanks shown on the 95 Dakar bike carried the weight too high. The later Rallye tanks (1997-2000) wrap in and around the subframe. They look more like saddlebags and lowered the CG.

    The dual exhaust on the 1996-1998 Adventure was mostly a styling exercise. It looks like the Rallye and that's all that mattered. It used the Rallye head and mid pipes but had its own Y-tube and dual mufflers. Changing it to a Rallye style exhaust would be nothing more than changing the muffler.

    Yes, it's vulnerable but it's fookin' cool. :ricky
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  7. hondahawkrider

    hondahawkrider DAMN Rider/Motardian

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    Yeah it's fooking cool - I have the 97 low pipe model (see sig).. However, the rallye exhausts are not available from a number of online sources - so I am pulling the duals off and running just one pipe down the rhs and will bend it up so it will just clear the pelican hard bags..

    If the rebuild goes well - and it's all good - once it's back on the road I will do some rear tanks. The ones from the 99 are available - but their are diffrerence in the subframes on the rallye and the 620 low pipe model. Thus, if I could find the Hecktanks I would grab em in heartbeat.. I got the 620Adv to slab/ride it to where the group would go offroad, I would use the rear reserve 1st on the slab, then use the reg tank for offroad... Some starting places are in the middle of nowhere - etc...
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  8. Jan from Finland

    Jan from Finland Been here awhile

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    When people are talking about the history of LC4 Adventure, I always wonder why it’s ancestor (89-91’) LC4 600 Incas is never mentioned. Have you ever seen it on the road? I haven't.

    Specifications according to Motorrad Katalog 1990
    Displacement: 553cc
    Bore/stroke: 95/78 mm
    Power: 45PS@7000 rpm
    Torque: 53Nm@5500 rpm
    Suspension travel 240/300 mm
    Weight: 140 kg
    Wheelbase: 1500 mm
    Kick start only.

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  9. clarky

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    Jason, yeah it is a bike that I have been looking at, although it is 1600km from me, so it makes it a little difficult to go and have a look at it!!

    It is definately an 04 Adventure, and I'm not sure of the details of the tanks.....I think they are actually sheet metal, rather than plastic.

    What I am interested in is the screen, as it is def not your standard 04 screen. Can the older style screen be purchased and do they provide increased protection from buffeting?

    cheers
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    hondahawkrider DAMN Rider/Motardian

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    I honestly dont know about the screen - I have only ridden with mine (97) and didn't have any problems.. I know that Munn Racing via KTMTAlk membership has allot of parts available.. However, you would have to buy the two seperate pieces... Older style has the lower fairing and at clear upper piece/fairing - I think the new models one is all one piece... For the $$ - I would probably get a windscreen spoiler similiar to one that is on my 990 (http://www.touratech-usa.com/shop/show.lasso?sku=040-1360&-session=touratech:148912330326c25AE6IKl374AD93) instead.. It's less $$ overall...
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    Hi ya'll..

    Im a newbie in ADVrider forum.. great site!! :clap

    also, im new in DP bikes.. fell in love with DP since i watched Long way round and race to dakar..

    hence, i'm selling my RC51 for KTM 620 adventure '98 soon.. hehehe..

    i've been told there is only 1 (or 2) unit of 620 adventure in Malaysia.. guess it's super rare, huh?? so i need this thread hoping we can share experiences with our 620..

    Cherio!
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  12. Shahrizan

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    Hello Guys..:freaky

    ive been Googling for dry weight and bhp the 620 Adventure.. but i cant get any.. :huh

    may i know the details, guys?? :wink:
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  13. GODSPEED

    GODSPEED finger lickin' good

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    Welcome Shahrizan.

    According to the July 1998 issue of Cycle World:

    Weight without fuel: 360 pounds (manual says 166 kg/366 pounds)
    Weight with full tank 404 pounds

    bhp 43.5 @ 7300 rpm
    torque 35.8 @ 5000 rpm

    Hope this helps. If you have any more questions I would be happy to look them up for you. The previous owner had a little collection of articles, magazines, and manuals. And the original briefcase too. :D
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    Cheers pal! :clap:clap
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    I am curious to know the difference between the 620 Advnture low mounted exhausts: the supertrapp ones that have disks in the end vs.the standard exhaust canister style exhaust with outlet stubs (as shown by the 1st pic in this thread). As stated in the first post: "World market bikes continued with dual exhaust with outlet stubs. To meet spark arrestor requirements, US Market got USFS stamped, twin Supertrapp mufflers."

    Mine has the supertrapp- but they are a little ratty (PO stored the bike outside). I was originally looking at fabricating something to replace this system as I go thru stream crossings on allot of my rides. I thought of just bending the supertrapps up at 45 degrees but I decided against it. My main reason being that its disk system pushes out heat and pressure around the endcap of the exhuast, rather than straight back like a standard exhaust, and I didn't want it to cook anything that might be in side bags and/or reserve tank.

    Anyway, thanks to the Flea Market here on ADV, I just picked up a clean looking OEM full system with the more standard looking outlet stubs. So I was wondering how much of a difference there are between the two systems if anyone knows? I am hoping it won't impact performance much (I have the fcr carb in it), but I hope it 's quietier as this will be my offroad bike. I am really psyched about it, as it comes in pieces. It looks easy enough to add a pipe on each side withs a bend before the canister to make a Rallye-ish looking echaust..

    Anyone know the difference between the two...

    Thanks In Advance
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    I fear that the problem you're going to run into is the stub exhausts is they don't have USFS legal spark arrestors. That's why we got a different exhaust in the US. If you're using it for your offroad exhaust, whacha' gonna' do when Ranger Rick pulls you over?
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  17. meat popsicle

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    I dug up some info HERE but the link is now password protected... :bluduh so here are some other links:

    http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardino/recreation/ohv/sparkarrester.shtml

    But that is just San Bernardino NF... what about the others?

    http://www.fs.fed.us/r4/htnf/recreation/motorized/regulations/spark_arrestors.shtml

    :bluduh So which is it YFF!?!

    Well, I think I found my answer over at ThumperTalk:

    http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4014363#post4014363

    "There is no nation wide spark arrestor requirements for US Forest Service land."

    So I guess each unit can issue their own orders, requiring either a spark arrestor OR a USFS approved (stamped) spark arrestor... :bluduh
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  18. hondahawkrider

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    It's a very good point.. However, Ranger Rick here is more concerned whether or not you have a DNR sticker (ORV Trail) or legal plates. The main area I ride most of the time, is centered around and ORV loop that has allot of connecting (great) trails and roads. There isn't anyplace you need to be checked out before entering it, but there are Rangers who move throught the aera. The Rangers target those on the ORV trail w/o the DNR sticker, and/or mostly go after those who leave the ORV without a tag. :deal

    If you happen to run into Ranger while on the surrounding roads, chances are high that he will block your path, walk around you, and will visually check turn signals and tag w/o running the vin # ( I don't even know if they have that capabilitiy).. I have heard they do give tickets if you have an aftermarket exhaust that doesn't have USFS approval stamped somewhere on it. It's my hope that I will squeak by since they look OEM.. I am sure I can find it my manually my bike is USFS approved and legal.. Yeah it's really for the supertrapp's, but the cover on the manual I have doesn't have supertrapps on it, so I will play dumb... I would think it would take a savvy bike person to figure it out.. I should be golden as long as it plays out and they don't have some device to stick in my exhaust to check for the arrestor...If I get totally boned and it becomes an issue - I will pay the $$ to pro-motion and get end caps for 'em
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  19. chicagomike

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    Found this thread through an eBay posting of all places. Anyway, I thought you guys might find it itneresting that my '98 title 620 has a SN# of 8543 and came from the factory with a Dellorto 40mm carb and the stainless cannister style exhaust and not the Supertrapp style. I know it's not been modified and I'm the original owner and bought the bike new @ TJs in Austin, TX in the summer of '99. Greg @ MCC in the Chicago 'burbs specualted that it might have been an extremely early model brought in before final EPA certification or something.

    Here are pics taken a couple years ago when it looked a little less tired: http://guzzimike66.gss-inc2.net/mww-ktm.html. The non painted plastic has since faded somewhat and the decals are lifting to I need to order new bits to spruce up the old girl...

    Mike Wright
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    1996 Moto Guzzi Sport 1100
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  20. hondahawkrider

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    I actually just picked up a set of the stainless canister exhaust to replace the ST models that had gotten a bit worn... There are some floating around.. I have no clue why some have these and other have the supertrapp ones...
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