KTM 620 Adventure E/GS Adventure History

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Donkey Hotey, Dec 28, 2005.

  1. Donkey Hotey

    Donkey Hotey De Jo Momma

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    Welcome to the site, Mike. That was my post on the eBay auction.

    Your bike does indeed look like a very early model. Your forks are silver (most had black forks) and the Dellorto is Euro-spec. The US got the Quicksilver. That explains the pipes too. You have the Euro exhaust shown on the cover of all of the manuals. A number of them made it to our shores in that configuration.

    Did you change the windshield? The early models had clear windshields. The later ones have the smoke windscreen.

    It's interesting because my bike also came from Chicago. I wonder if it was the same dealer. :scratch

    Lose that idea now (I'm doing you a favor :D). I have a set of Rally tanks. They won't fit without substantial modifications to the subframe. I'm talking: cut and rebuild both seat stays and all of the airbox/battery box bracketry. I have a spare subframe that I'm going to pilfer for the job--if I ever get around to it.

    Trust me: just forget it or buy one of the real Rallyes that pops up for sale around here.
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  2. hondahawkrider

    hondahawkrider DAMN Rider/Motardian

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    well fwiw - I believe another lister said the he could swear the NOT for US 2008 SM990r and another KTM were in his lcoal dealership... I guess it's possible that some just happend show up in the US... who know....

    As for the rear tanks.... ever run into someone with hard head - that just wont stop till they are confronted with it... Hi, my name is Jason. :evil

    There seem to be a number of different rear tank options... OOC - what year are your tanks from.... It was my understanding that the rear tanks from a 99 Rallye - which are still available (if you check the fiche stuff - parts for the 99 are still available). It was my understanding that these could be fitted w/o too much trouble to a 97 that has the extra frame supports to handle the weight.. The problem is that we are NOT talking cheap... I guess it all depends what someone means when they say "NOT too much trouble". LOL... What I am after for the few time I would need the extra gas (not on the trail) is the what I believe are called "heck" tanks as shown earlier on pezz_gs's 97 rallye.... I will figure something out...
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  3. Donkey Hotey

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    I have the 1999-2000 Rallye tanks. They are the low tanks that look like bulging sidecover/saddlebags (linky to pics of one here). They're not the Heck tanks that straddle the rear fender.

    I bought them from a guy in Europe who bought them for his Adventure. After finding out how hard they were going to be to fit, he decided to sell them. That's how I got them.

    Those double seat stays that are on the early Adventure subframe are exactly what is in the way of the tanks. One of them has to be cut out, the other modified. After that, there were subframe tubes that went below the tanks to where the passenger footpeg mounts are. It ain't gonna' be easy. In fact, I'd bet that a high-pipe LC4 subframe would be an easier starting point. It doesn't much matter because I have the facilities to make a whole new subframe if necessary. I just don't want to.
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  4. hondahawkrider

    hondahawkrider DAMN Rider/Motardian

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    cool... if it helps .. I ran off a quick shot of the differences between subframes .

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    one of the reasons I didn't plunk down the $$ for new rear tanks - was I didn't know the tanks mounted up.. From your description - it looks like #13 on the rallye subframe probably helps to cradle/support the tanks... Nuts...

    FWIW - from the fiche - the rear subframe is still available - sounds like the best way for me would be to get this rear subframe and then get tanks... Thanks allot for the help....
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  5. chicagomike

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    Smoked windscreen is stock as well. I got my Adv from TJs Cycle in Austin, TX... did a fly/ride to get back home via San Antonio, Houston, Galveston, Baton Rouge, Vicksburg, Tupelo, St. Lous and then back to Chicago. My local dealer is MCC in Villa Park and they're the ones who speculated when I got it that it was an early US model or a Euro model that snuck through. Aside from the Givi bags & Corbin seat it's always remained stock though I do have a Keihin FCR sitting on a shelf I've beern wanting to try (maybe for $ale??) ... I have them on my '96 Guzzi Sport 1100 and it transformed the bike's power delivery.

    Mike
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  6. Donkey Hotey

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    Hmmm...that explains everything. :huh It looks like there isn't much to that Rallye subframe. Before you consider ordering a Rallye subframe, you should also be aware that they moved the battery and a bunch of other components under there. I spent about an hour looking at one at the KTM rally in Colorado. It's all familiar KTM components but they're in totally different places.

    If you have the ability (and tools) to cut & form medium gauge sheetmetal and to weld tubing, it wouldn't be too difficult. But it's not even close to a weekend project of unbolting & bolting a bunch of parts...unless you order all of those parts from KTM.
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  7. troy safari carpente

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    Here's mine (not in my posession anymore :cry ).

    An original (twin stainless steel low boy pipe) 1997 620 LC4 Adventure, purchased (almost) "new" in August of 2003 (with only 450 km on the clock!?)... :D I saw it sitting forlorn in a Honda dealer - not far from my home - while driving by one day... and I just had to rescue it. (I had previously owned a 1999 spec 640 Rallye a couple of years earlier).

    The 620 served me faithfully for three riding seasons as my allround offroad, touring rally/adventure mount...

    As pictured below; :deal

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    Modifications I had done to it included a Mikuni 40 carb, cyl. head ported, 640 Rallye two into one exhaust sytem, 640 Rallye airbox and filter, revalved WP Extreme front fork and WP rear shock, supermoto front guard, lexan headlight cover and roadbook holder... Dat's it! :D

    A great bike (I regret I sold it)... :cry It would have been nice to hang on to, but had to make way in my shed for the SE in Sept. 2006. The LC4 is now owned by a Danish enthusiast who uses the bike as his weekend gravel racer and the occassional forray down to Africa for an amatuer rally like the Tuareg or just touring. :thumb

    Great thread... these bikes ARE classics! :clap
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  8. Donkey Hotey

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  9. toolfan

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    There is a '97 on craigslist in Portland for $2800.

    should I be finding the money to buy it?
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    http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/mcy/726009695.html

    97 KTM 620 Adventure - $2800 (SW Portland)

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    Date: 2008-06-19, 7:47PM PDT


    97 KTM 620 Adventure on/off road dual sport, 6k miles, 7.9 gallon tank, used but well maintained, one owner, service records.

    Serious bike for serious rider. $2,800 - Contact Bob 503-977-5060. No calls after 9:00pm please.
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  11. Donkey Hotey

    Donkey Hotey De Jo Momma

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    Considering the one on eBay is already at $3500 and hasn't closed yet...uhhh...yeah, $2800 could be considered a good price. Did you read the first page of this thread?
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  12. hondahawkrider

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    it was a good deal.. I got one for 2000 that needed a bit of work... this thing looked clean and had the EU non Supertrapp pipes..
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  13. toolfan

    toolfan Broken Hearted

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    I assume it sold.

    Wasn't me.

    Smokin' deal, it seems.
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  14. Solo Lobo

    Solo Lobo airhead or nothing

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    Here's one for sale on LA cragislist... If I was closer, or wasn't broke...

    Not mine!

    1997 KTM 620 Adventure - $1500 (Silverlake)

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    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/mcy/765885965.html

    1997 KTM 620 Adventure, bike in photo is what it looks like new.. the one i have has a bad crank and needs to be rebuilt. the motor is currently out. was going to rebuild it, but no time and money. Decals are off the tank, custom corbin seat, custom 2-into-1 two brothers exhaust. It is sitting in storage so I don't have a photo of the bike yet. The tank alone is worth $1000. Street legal with custom plate. Need to sell. If you want to see it, it is located in Silverlake 90026, just off of Sunset Blvd.
    $1500 takes it.

    323-669-0014

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  15. robgutierreziv

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    I just saw this thread and got excited. We got a 1998 Adventure and get tons of compliments. Here are a couple of pictures. I will provide better ones when I get back home. The pictures are from a short gravel road trip I did with my friend who has a F650GS. The KTM's vin # is 18785.

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  16. alfred jorgensen

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    I have one of the five Adventure's imported in 97, it came only with a manufactures "certificate of origin" and a "hope you can get it registered somehow" greating as I rolled it out the door from Malcolm Smiths Motorsport in Riverside, CA in very early 98.

    About a month prior, I saw a full blown 97 Rallye bike in Malcolm's showroom and was immediatly attracted to it in spite of its apparent poor quality plastic and kick start only engine. Alas, it had already been sold to my friend in Flagstaff, AZ, bummer. By the way, he still uses it!

    However, after some investigation, I learned that along with the Rallye bike, KTM had brought over a number of Adventure models for the US motorcycle press to test and which probably were eglible for registering as "green sticker" bikes in CA, "at least Jimmy Lewis had somehow got a plate for his" I was told by a KTM team member.

    The bike had the twin down mufflers but it came with a Del'Orto carb, a larger diameter piston and cylinder in a box and a photo copied manual and parts book plus a photo copied parts manual for the suspension.

    It also has sand-cast engine cases which are set up for a 660 cc cylinder and some other minor oddities, some of which I believe was carried over on the early 98 models available in the US.

    Now, this was not a setup, when I was told the bike was available, Malcolm's store manager also told me that "it was not certain that the bike could be registered in CA" and they wanted to make sure I understood that I was buying it at my own risk because they did not want to end up with it on "the floor".

    At the time, I had a history with Malcolm's shop bying various odd bikes like a 650 Cagiva Elefant and a so-called Ducati E900 so they were used to my excentricities.

    A long story short, i ended uo with a "Green Sticker" bike registration which later was converted to a street legal designation and today the bike has a Nevada plate.

    Incidently, Nevada is the perfect place for this machine with its big fuel tank since we often go 200 plus miles between fuel stops and the fairing is nice on that 80 mile home run on some remote highway at the end of the days ride.

    However, I was originally planning on using it on dual-sport rides and the down pipes were a pain getting hung up on rocks and tree stumps on single track trails so I purchased an entire "rear end", sub-frame, plastic and all for an EXC dual sport model and bolted it up.

    The only problem was the exhaust, Big Gun had a complete high mounted system which I purchased but it was way too loud and when I added a 4" Supertrap internal disc muffler it either strangled the bike with a few discs or was still way too loud.

    So I ended up building a dual muffler set-up aking to what my Husky's has using two 4" internal disc Supertrap mufflers which has been on the bike ever since, it flows great and is nice and quite for when you explore trails which are not on the official maps.

    12,000 miles later, the bike still runs great and I am still using it to explore remote areas of Nevada since it is my only bike that can go 250 plus miles between refills and it has never let me down!

    Alfred Jorgensen
    Las Vegas, Nevada


    NB: The original separate wind screen was not very good, at 6.5 ' it buffeted my helmet badly at speed. After a friend of mine crashed the bike into an oak tree during the last "Six Days of Northern California" in 2001, I fitted a lower combined mask and wind screen from a later model and it works better keeping the turbulence on my chest.
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  17. Donkey Hotey

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    Hey, are you the "Giant German guy".
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  18. alfred jorgensen

    alfred jorgensen Adventurer

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    Danish, but probably one and the same!
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  19. Donkey Hotey

    Donkey Hotey De Jo Momma

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    I think we met on a Dual Dogs, dual sport ride up above Frasier Park back in 2002. You were stopped in the trees, I pulled up on my ATK and we talked for about 15 minutes.

    You're the 12 foot tall guy that makes that Adventure look like a mini-bike, right? Nobody could remember your name. They all just referred to you as "the giant German guy".
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  20. alfred jorgensen

    alfred jorgensen Adventurer

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    It was probably 2001, I dont believe Damon did the ride out of Frasier Park after that and I recall using the Adventure in 2001.