KTM 690 Enduro centerstand

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by cybbe, Jan 15, 2010.

  1. veesquared

    veesquared Been here awhile

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    They have three different stands similar to the one FriedDuck posted.

    www.riderwarehouse.com the lightest one is 6.5 ounces and packs to the size of a pair of sunglasses. You need a pool on your lower swingarm to work however.
    Relatively cheap at around 42.00 dollars U.S.
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  2. Cigar Mike

    Cigar Mike Too Old and Too Slow

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    You don't need anything to prop your bike up if you are riding with someone else. I have propped up my bike on the side stand and another bike many times to fix a flat. I carry a couple of bungie cords to tie off the front brake so that the bikes don't roll. This is hard on the side stand but it does work.

    This is easier for me.
    [​IMG]

    Cigar Mike
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  3. cybbe

    cybbe n00b

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    it was kind of dark, hope you get the "picture" :D anyway.
    I have more, but i need your email to send those pic.

    690 under.jpg
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  4. cybbe

    cybbe n00b

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    pic 2
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  5. Cigar Mike

    Cigar Mike Too Old and Too Slow

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    cybbe,

    What are those two black plugs at the lowest point under the footpegs? Are they a threaded connection? Can't tell from the pictures.

    Email cigarmikes@gmail.com

    Cigar Mike
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  6. cybbe

    cybbe n00b

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    i cant explain better than this picture...
    The plastic bashplate has 2 cylindrical mounts, its like male/female kind of thing lol,
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  7. bobzilla

    bobzilla Dirty Old Man

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    Bracket mount
    pn# 7650303804401S

    bolts
    pn# 0025080456

    m fish here http://cyclehuttktm.com/FicheFinderNew/FicheFinder.aspx#







    I think:rofl


    edit my bad thoes are the skid plate bung
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  8. DirtJack

    DirtJack Adventurer

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    I carry one of these in my tank bag. Works great.
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  9. DirtJack

    DirtJack Adventurer

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    It is a rubber bushing in a hole which a pin on the OEM skid plate fits into. Many after market skid plates use this pin-in-bushing as the rear mount for the skid plate.
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  10. Cigar Mike

    Cigar Mike Too Old and Too Slow

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    From looking at the Parts Fiche for the frame it appears that the best place to make a bolt on is where both foot peg brackets bolt to the bike. It appears that mounting plates would have to sit between the brackets and the frame which will require longer bolts and possibly some spacers for the rear subframe support to line up correctly. This is similar to what DualStar does for mounting the DR and KLR on there center stands. It looks doable but will require a bit of work to get it right.

    I sure like the looks of that bike, wish I had one.

    Thanks for the answers to my question. I would be Leary of attaching a center stand to the skid plate mounts. It looks like a failure waiting to happen.

    Cigar Mike
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  11. cybbe

    cybbe n00b

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    thx for the answer. The problem seams to big for me to overcome, ill hang here and see if someone has som tecnical update that is a bit more "hands on".

    Im no engineer, so i feel like im back to square one...
    There is no easy plug and play solution here im afraid, any ideas how to solve this? maby some drawing to help...>

    Maby bend 2 stainless pipes and mount them in the front with the standard bolts, and make them follow the line of the underside and into the holes(with rubber bushings) . Then weld another pipe or 2 across to bolt the skidplate in ... and go from there?

    Im out of ideas..:eek1

    690 under4.jpg
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  12. Cigar Mike

    Cigar Mike Too Old and Too Slow

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    cybbe,

    I will make a sketch the way I see it. I think it will tuck up to where it would not be lower the the skid plate and fit right between the receivers for the skid plate.

    I will try and get to it by the end of the week.

    Cigar Mike
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  13. Cigar Mike

    Cigar Mike Too Old and Too Slow

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    cybbe,

    I can email you the sketch if you would like, but I think you will get the idea. The mounting plates would sandwich between the frame and the foot peg brackets. The mounting plates would protrude downward and be inside the shadow of the receivers for the skid plate. I think it would be tucked up in the space between the two receivers. It will be some trial and error to get it just right but should not be too bad.

    Making the legs the right shape to miss the chain, side stand and the shock linkage will take some planning as well.

    [​IMG]

    Cigar Mike
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  14. cybbe

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    please send that to me, i cant read whats written in that picture...

    Dont you know anyone that has a 690 E to lend you, then you could make a central stand to just bolt on -and post it to me..:D
    Im not sure you could just put vertical mount in there(sandwitch)
    maby some stuff gets offset.

    i have to take a closer look at that later...

    mail silvergubben(at)hotmail.com

    (at)=@:wink:

    thanks.
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  15. Cigar Mike

    Cigar Mike Too Old and Too Slow

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    cybbe,

    I will send it. It is hard to tell from just the parts fiche. But it looks like the plate is flat where the peg brackets bolt up. If I ever get time I will ask if someone has one in the Rockies Regional Forum, that I can use. Just too busy to start another project right now.

    Cigar Mike

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  16. cybbe

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    I have a question about 1 thing in the drawing. I have made 2 changes in this picture compared to yours, is this change right or wrong?
    :eek1 1 is a bigger hole , 2 a thicker plate. I hope you get the point eaven if i didnt explain so well.

    "Im allso a bit concerned about how near this assumed mount is to the bikes real ideal centerstand mount position.
    and allso there is so much annoying stuff placed in the way of the stand when its in upper position, and skidplate is allso going to be shorter. Maby its better to mount skid first then stand on plate anyway, but keeping the idea of the sandwich plate.??"

    stand 1.jpg

    and many thanks from me to you mike and all others for the time you spent drawing and writing, :p
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  17. Cigar Mike

    Cigar Mike Too Old and Too Slow

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    cbbye,

    Exactly. And yes I know I drew left handed threads also.

    Cigar Mike
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  18. cybbe

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    5 minutes install, bolton kit :clap to bad it was not for my bike :D
    Nice work there C-mike
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  19. Cigar Mike

    Cigar Mike Too Old and Too Slow

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    I am just about complete with he stand for the TE610 Husky. This is the kind of stand that is fun to work on. They show a stand in the parts fiche but never made it. They have the mounting points already on the frame.

    As soon as I am done with the XR400 I will see what I can do with the 690. The 690 seems like the kind of bike that a center would be useful on. Especially if it does not reduce ground clearance.

    Cigar Mike
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  20. cybbe

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    Ill be waiting for this 690 setup, the good old 640 stand was really nice and i hope something like that will popup here someday:D .

    So ill just wait a bit for your construction for the 690 because its prob. better to let the real pro deal with this....thats you :evil
    Allso its no use for me to buy a skidplate before i really know whats the best option in this case.
    Im so glad i started this thread, and so lucky to meet people that makes dreams come true...
    Thx.
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