KTM 690 Enduro headlight upgrade options

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by r'elise me, Dec 14, 2011.

  1. r'elise me

    r'elise me Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2011
    Oddometer:
    342
    Location:
    Venice CA
    I've got a 2008 KTM 690e with the H4 60/65W bulb which was oem that year. Even though it blows the later models' puny 35W? incandecent POS away, more light is always a nice thing. Baha Designs makes an HID upgrade kit that fits the 2009+ headlight bezel, but not mine so I'm trying to figure out what it takes to change my headlight/mask set up to the later models. Since I haven't actually seen a later model 690e personally I'm hoping you can tell me whether the later model mask bolts right up and the turn signals, etc work with it and whether additional KTM hardware is needed to make it work.

    I did order a 50/100W H4 bulb to see if that is an adequate enough upgrade, but running the 100W high beam with my electric liners and accessories is an overload so I'd have to upgrade the stator I think. I added a voltmeter to the bike to keep the charging situation in check.

    Thanks!
    #1
  2. ABuck99

    ABuck99 0.0

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2009
    Oddometer:
    702
    Location:
    Georgia
    #2
  3. r'elise me

    r'elise me Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2011
    Oddometer:
    342
    Location:
    Venice CA
    I haven't tried that bulb. I did order a 50/100W H4 for better trail lighting. Stock works pretty OK for street riding at night. Did you find that PIAA to be significantly better than oem? BTW if you interested, if I can't make this HID kit work on my 690, it's actually designed for the KTM EXC bikes like yours and I may sell it. It includes the stator upgrade instructions and a regulator. Nice kit. I paid about $200 for it.
    #3
  4. Dazed Productions

    Dazed Productions Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2010
    Oddometer:
    189
    Very good article on HID upgrades here:
    http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html

    And the author also has an article on superbright bulbs here:
    http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/superwhite/superwhite.html

    Basically, all I would recommend is:
    -consider upgrading the wiring loom to include relays (look at the relay article on same site)
    -consider higher wattage bulbs (but they may melt things)
    -look at aux lights to supplement the main

    I went the aux light route on my 525 and fitted LED ones. I am fitting a nav tower on the 690 so am moving to projector lamps. I am also changing to a dual relay system to minimise wiring losses. I have found the 690e headlight to be good though (2008 model)
    #4
  5. r'elise me

    r'elise me Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2011
    Oddometer:
    342
    Location:
    Venice CA
    Thanks Dazed. I read through the articles and they're very telling. I'm interested in the products you're looking into for the 690. I haven't seen projector lights for this bike.

    I installed a Candlepower 50/100W H4 bulb today - still not nightime so not sure if it's a significant improvement. Has anyone encountered issues with them (melting, blown prematurely, etc)?
    #5
  6. GS simp

    GS simp Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2006
    Oddometer:
    113
    Location:
    N Ireland
    I went with the Lynx fairing and full HiD upgrade super lights now,,,

    Attached Files:

    #6
  7. Dazed Productions

    Dazed Productions Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2010
    Oddometer:
    189
    #7
  8. Biped

    Biped NooB Again

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2008
    Oddometer:
    412
    Location:
    Oregon, Wet Side
    I did a bi-xenon HID lamp conversion from DDM Tunning on the stock '08 690 E headlamp. Has been working great for a year. The fitment of the HV coil was a little tricky but got it to work. I have a 35W, 5500K version. Can not beat the price, and runs cooler than incandecent with less power draw.
    Only issue I have is the Hi beam switch does not work, but the Hi flash works, too lazy to debug.

    [​IMG]
    #8
  9. Tbone675

    Tbone675 Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2010
    Oddometer:
    136
    Location:
    Hoosick Falls, NY
    #9
  10. Velociraptor

    Velociraptor TrackBum

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2005
    Oddometer:
    1,214
    Location:
    Seattle
    Do you have this setup? Runs OK with stock stator output?
    #10
  11. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2004
    Oddometer:
    5,009
    Location:
    sanity?
    Any HID or LED headlight setup should draw less power than the stock halogen headlight.
    #11
  12. Velociraptor

    Velociraptor TrackBum

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2005
    Oddometer:
    1,214
    Location:
    Seattle
    Thnx.
    #12
  13. Velociraptor

    Velociraptor TrackBum

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2005
    Oddometer:
    1,214
    Location:
    Seattle
    Installed this setup. Very bright!
    #13
  14. AustinJake

    AustinJake DR650 - Versys

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2010
    Oddometer:
    4,431
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    Yes to this but if I had mine to do over, I'd go LED, the dual HIDs with ballasts are too heavy.
    #14
  15. tdreyer

    tdreyer KTiM

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2008
    Oddometer:
    515
    Location:
    Used to live in Crestview FL, now ????
    Aw shoot, I wish I'd seen this sooner. Good luck with that light, TT HID's are junk. Yes the light is great and works well but that won't last long. The bulbs and ballasts will go out soon:deal You'll become tired of boxing it up and shipping it back to TT. TT bought mine back after a year and more shipments than I can count on one hand YMMV.

    :boid Geoff at Trail Tech!

    My mother used to say"if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all". But these guys really pissed me off, especially that ass.
    #15
  16. Velociraptor

    Velociraptor TrackBum

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2005
    Oddometer:
    1,214
    Location:
    Seattle
    Fingers crossed that I have better luck. Will report back if problems start.
    #16
  17. ABuck99

    ABuck99 0.0

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2009
    Oddometer:
    702
    Location:
    Georgia
    Ive heard that the ballast is the weak point in the HID set up on the smaller cc bikes. I was told that they need consistent voltage delivery above 12v- or they tend to fail much sooner which could be the issue some have had with the TT HID set ups. While the 690 is probably ok in voltage and wattage output, the OEM 450/530 stators are AC output and if extra electrics are added, the stator should be upgraded; like to a DC system like TT's- which they say delivers constant 100w DC at idle or FT.

    With technology improving for LED- Ive been looking much closer at the Vision-X kits, any one have good experience with these?
    #17
  18. bobzilla

    bobzilla Dirty Old Man

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2006
    Oddometer:
    1,079
    Location:
    Lost & Found again in the Great Basin
    the tt hids on my 690 failed (both, one about 500 miles later) within 1200 miles
    #18
  19. Trailtech

    Trailtech n00b

    Joined:
    May 7, 2009
    Oddometer:
    8
    We ride what we design and build in the USA - and we stand behind it - period.

    We did have trouble with our early HID systems. If you have problems with our lights, just contact us @ 360-687-4530, we are here. If you are not happy with our product we want to take care of you or buy it back. Are we perfect? No. Do we know what we are doing? Yes, I invite you to come visit our production facility in Washington state and decide for yourself.

    Our current production is rated and tested to 1,000 hours life for lamp (lifetime warranty on our ballasts). Most of our lamps life test is making up to and over 2,000 hours. Automotive specification is 2,000 hours. As our housings are small and our output is high, we run much hotter than standard automotive. This is not an easy task. No other company in the world makes these type of lights from the ground up - lamps and ballasts.

    Personally, I have our HID's on both my street and dirt machines and would not ride without them. If there were a better lights, I would be running them, it is dark here in the winter.....

    geoff@trailtech.net
    #19
  20. Velociraptor

    Velociraptor TrackBum

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2005
    Oddometer:
    1,214
    Location:
    Seattle
    Cool! Well time will tell but, it's good to know you guys are keeping on top of the web discussions.
    #20